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by kg4ugk＠kg4ugk.com 04 Oct '16

04 Oct '16

I've seen a few people request their email address be removed from the "FRC" mailing list. I am NOT the owner/operator of this mailing list. Didn't even know it existed until receiving todays email thread. While we all may have different reactions to today's email thread. I do _personally_ believe in the future this list could be useful. I would suggest applying a filter to auto delete the current subject line if you are upset with the amount of emails it is generating. But with all that said: [ http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info ]( http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info ) Has an option to allow anyone to remove themselves from the list. Hope this helps some of you _out_ (pun intended) Shawn Campbell KG4UGK

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frc meetings
by David Krauss 04 Oct '16

04 Oct '16

Ron, that's the problem. members are often not taken seriously. Now I do agree that there are some good directors and I personally have no problem with the tampa area director. but the FRC infrastructure is badly broken. It's been broken for a long time. And it needs fixing. 73 Dave NX4Y Sent from an iPhone 6

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by David Krauss 04 Oct '16

04 Oct '16

I know Bryan meant well.. maybe a bcc email to start would have worked better ! but what's done is done. I for one want to move on and find like-minded repeater owners that are looking for a more efficient process. I believe Bryan knows very well what's required to do repeater coordination and i don't think he's proposing to do it all himself. Rather , some people that are seriously interested in helping Florida repeaters. Some of those people may well be already involved in the FRC. some not. Dave NX4Y Sent from an iPhone 6

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Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information
by 4wooten 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Bryan, Please stop replying to all.If you want to do something get involved and help out the FRC instead of trying to overthrow the people that have been working for years as volunteers. Please take me off any further communications from you. I will see you in Melbourne! Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6. -------- Original message --------From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> Date: 10/3/16 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] FYI... Florida Repeater Council Information On 10/3/16 1:26 PM, Steve Zingman wrote: > How are they not allowing all to communicate? I'd asked the FRC for a members list before informally and was rebuffed. I asked again formally under FS 617 and was ignored (this is a legal requirement). You can see my formal request here: http://bryanfields.net/FRC-info/Reference%20%239.pdf I got the FRC database from reddit, and it had the email addresses of everyone who was coordinated or applied to be in it. I used that as the basis of this list. I wish I had a better option, but I've been unsubscribing anyone who's asked ASAP. It's not my intent to annoy anyone. I think the members need to communicate directly more than 3 times per year at a members meeting. There a many who can be valuable contributors but not necessarily make the meetings. An email list has worked well for many other groups, why not repeater owners and those interested in coordination in Florida? 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership
by Wesley Smith 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

STOP REPLYING TO ALL!!!! -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 10/3/16, MICHAEL WELLS <wells8868(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership To: "Florida Repeater Council Discussion" <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Date: Monday, October 3, 2016, 5:57 PM ????????????????????????????? From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership On 10/3/16 11:39 AM, mccrpt(a)tampabay.rr.com wrote: > > I am not sure what vote you will be able to do. Members of FRC can vote for > the directors, but the directors vote on the bylaws and policies of FRC, not > the members. There is a members meeting prior to the board meeting. I plan to vote on items during this meeting. The meetings are governed by Roberts Rules and I'm familiar with parliamentary procedure. > I am not sure if you are familiar with the FRC and its organization. I am, and we need to have some changes in how it's run. It's not a board beholden to itself, but rather a members organization run for the benefit of all amateurs in the state of Florida. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Florida Repeater Council Information
by Bryan Fields 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: * Publication of the FRC database on a public website o This database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. o Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. o All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. * Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! o As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s */October/*! o If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down. o Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. * Violation of the coordination policy by the directors * Willful violation of the bylaws by the directors * Willful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for information o Acknowledged receipt of this by President Kassis * Publicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. * When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius. * Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: * Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability: o Ray Kassis, N4LEM o Dana Rodakis, K4LK o (Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4M o Chuck Lavender, W4CLL * Demand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws. * Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida. * Establish a development process for new policies from the membership * Encourage input from the membership based on sound technical policies * De-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination. * No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. * Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions.

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by ad4c 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Sorry about i then. AD4C Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Howard Carling <wd4mrr(a)bellsouth.net> Date: 10/3/16 9:34 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Why are you sending this to me? I have nothing to do with the FRC On 10/3/2016 9:04 AM, Fred Kleber wrote: > Please remove me too. I haven't lived in FL for 6 years, have never been a member of FRC, and never even owned a repeater in FL, or anywhere else. > > I also resent being added to this list without my permission, so yes it is SPAM. > > Sorry to all of those who had to read this. The directions at the bottom of the e-mail would require me to request a password, verify it, and only then could I unsubscribe from the list. Not very tactful from someone claiming to be in the IT field. > > 73, > Fred, K9VV > >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 08:53, Ken Wolfe <kwolfe(a)co.okaloosa.fl.us> wrote: >> >> Ok, Take me off the list. To many emails from it. >> >> Ken Wolfe, MSM, CEM >> Okaloosa County Public Safety >> Emergency Management >> 90 College Blvd E >> Niceville, FL 32578 >> Office: 850-651-7150 >> >> Please Note: Due to Florida’s very broad records laws, most written communications to or from County employees regariding County business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this written e-mail communication, including your e-mail address, may be subject to public disclosure. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of vern(a)highwayusa.com >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 6:36 AM >> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> >> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >> >> Calm down, no one hacked anything and this isn't spam, you are a member of the FRC mailing list and that is why you are getting these. >> >> Vern >> KI4ONW >> >> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 08:44:32 -0400 >> "KJ4AN Wayne F" <kj4an(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> LOOK GUYS (and Gals) I want to be REMOVED from these e-mails, I didn't >>> ask to be part of them. FRC and Dana has ALWAYS been helpful assisting >>> me with issues over the years. I have had several repeaters on the air >>> in the Clermont-Lake-Marion-Sumter County area SINCE 1980. >>> >>> >>> >>> PLEASE REMOVE MY E-mail from your 'SPAM-LIST', obviously >>> someone associated >>> with these postings hacked the FRC info database. >>> >>> >>> >>> *It is not necessary to be part of the FRC, they are >>> only an advisory board, >>> monitor the pair you qualify to be on, know the band >>> plan, rules, and do >>> your own thing if you wish, it's ultimately up to you, >>> not the FRC. >>> >>> >>> >>> KJ4AN-Wayne Licensed Florida Amateur Radio Operator >>> since 1965 >>> >>> FCC General Radio License since 1985 #PG-GB-009142 >>> >>> >>> >>> (KJ4AN(a)Comcast.net) >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: FRC-Info >>> [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of >>> kg4ugk(a)kg4ugk.com >>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:26 AM >>> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion >>> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in 2002, Dana was extremely helpful in getting my >>> coordination >>> completed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bryan, question. Why would you need a listing of unused >>> pairs? It seems >>> counter productive to starting a new repeater, as well >>> as trying to find >>> existing ones. >>> >>> >>> >>> In my understanding and past experience, you request >>> temporary coordination >>> and based on your location and desired output power, >>> they then assign you a >>> frequency pair that won't interfere with existing >>> repeaters in the output >>> powers RF range. They then give you time to setup and >>> test before providing >>> full coordination. >>> >>> >>> >>> Launching a repeater on an unused frequency pair, would >>> potentially cause >>> interference to those setting one up in the future, and >>> would possibly >>> result in a cease and deceit letter from the FCC when >>> someone else receives >>> coordination for that pair. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Shawn Campbell >>> >>> KG4UGK >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: vern(a)highwayusa.com >>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:58am >>> To: "Florida Repeater Council Discussion" >>> <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> >>> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >>> >>> >>> I must say that I have tried several times to contact >>> the >>> council to see if I could fire my repeater back up on my >>> old pair, and have heard nothing. I thought they were >>> defunct until I saw this email come through. >>> >>> Vern >>> KI4ONW >>> >>>> P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you >>>> wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove >>>> yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to >>>> oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have >>>> any questions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FRC-Info mailing list >>>> <mailto:FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org> >>>> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >>>> <http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info> >>>> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FRC-Info mailing list >>> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >>> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >> _______________________________________________ >> FRC-Info mailing list >> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >> _______________________________________________ >> FRC-Info mailing list >> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info > _______________________________________________ > FRC-Info mailing list > FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by ad4c 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Please, I do not see the unsubscribe link at the end of these emails, only see three links that take me to a site asking for a password, why don't you type here that link, still reveiving dozen of emails again again,this now for me its very upseting and don't want to be part of a war against the FRC. HectorAD4C Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Steve Zingman <szingman(a)msgstor.com> Date: 10/3/16 9:16 AM (GMT-05:00) To: frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Fred, You do not need the password to unsubscribe. Click the unsubscribe and a confirmation e-mail will be sent. Reply to the confirmation and you will be unsubscribed. This is not a comment on how people were added to the list in the first place. I do have issues with that. 73, Steve N4IRS On 10/3/2016 9:04 AM, Fred Kleber wrote: > Please remove me too. I haven't lived in FL for 6 years, have never been a member of FRC, and never even owned a repeater in FL, or anywhere else. > > I also resent being added to this list without my permission, so yes it is SPAM. > > Sorry to all of those who had to read this. The directions at the bottom of the e-mail would require me to request a password, verify it, and only then could I unsubscribe from the list. Not very tactful from someone claiming to be in the IT field. > > 73, > Fred, K9VV > >> On Oct 3, 2016, at 08:53, Ken Wolfe <kwolfe(a)co.okaloosa.fl.us> wrote: >> >> Ok, Take me off the list. To many emails from it. >> >> Ken Wolfe, MSM, CEM >> Okaloosa County Public Safety >> Emergency Management >> 90 College Blvd E >> Niceville, FL 32578 >> Office: 850-651-7150 >> >> Please Note: Due to Florida’s very broad records laws, most written communications to or from County employees regariding County business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this written e-mail communication, including your e-mail address, may be subject to public disclosure. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: FRC-Info [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of vern(a)highwayusa.com >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 6:36 AM >> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> >> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >> >> Calm down, no one hacked anything and this isn't spam, you are a member of the FRC mailing list and that is why you are getting these. >> >> Vern >> KI4ONW >> >> On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 08:44:32 -0400 >> "KJ4AN Wayne F" <kj4an(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> LOOK GUYS (and Gals) I want to be REMOVED from these e-mails, I didn't >>> ask to be part of them. FRC and Dana has ALWAYS been helpful assisting >>> me with issues over the years. I have had several repeaters on the air >>> in the Clermont-Lake-Marion-Sumter County area SINCE 1980. >>> >>> >>> >>> PLEASE REMOVE MY E-mail from your 'SPAM-LIST', obviously >>> someone associated >>> with these postings hacked the FRC info database. >>> >>> >>> >>> *It is not necessary to be part of the FRC, they are >>> only an advisory board, >>> monitor the pair you qualify to be on, know the band >>> plan, rules, and do >>> your own thing if you wish, it's ultimately up to you, >>> not the FRC. >>> >>> >>> >>> KJ4AN-Wayne Licensed Florida Amateur Radio Operator >>> since 1965 >>> >>> FCC General Radio License since 1985 #PG-GB-009142 >>> >>> >>> >>> (KJ4AN(a)Comcast.net) >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> From: FRC-Info >>> [mailto:frc-info-bounces@lists.keekles.org] On Behalf Of >>> kg4ugk(a)kg4ugk.com >>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:26 AM >>> To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion >>> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in 2002, Dana was extremely helpful in getting my >>> coordination >>> completed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bryan, question. Why would you need a listing of unused >>> pairs? It seems >>> counter productive to starting a new repeater, as well >>> as trying to find >>> existing ones. >>> >>> >>> >>> In my understanding and past experience, you request >>> temporary coordination >>> and based on your location and desired output power, >>> they then assign you a >>> frequency pair that won't interfere with existing >>> repeaters in the output >>> powers RF range. They then give you time to setup and >>> test before providing >>> full coordination. >>> >>> >>> >>> Launching a repeater on an unused frequency pair, would >>> potentially cause >>> interference to those setting one up in the future, and >>> would possibly >>> result in a cease and deceit letter from the FCC when >>> someone else receives >>> coordination for that pair. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Shawn Campbell >>> >>> KG4UGK >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: vern(a)highwayusa.com >>> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:58am >>> To: "Florida Repeater Council Discussion" >>> <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> >>> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information >>> >>> >>> I must say that I have tried several times to contact >>> the >>> council to see if I could fire my repeater back up on my >>> old pair, and have heard nothing. I thought they were >>> defunct until I saw this email come through. >>> >>> Vern >>> KI4ONW >>> >>>> >>>> P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you >>>> wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove >>>> yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to >>>> oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have >>>> any questions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FRC-Info mailing list >>>> <mailto:FRC-Info@lists.keekles.org> >>>> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >>>> <http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info> >>>> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FRC-Info mailing list >>> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >>> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FRC-Info mailing list >> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info >> _______________________________________________ >> FRC-Info mailing list >> FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org >> http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info > > _______________________________________________ > FRC-Info mailing list > FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info > -- "Just say no to world domination" _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information
by grassa＠earthlink.net 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Please remove me from this email group I have over 80 emails in my inbox please stop I've asked several people and I don't understand why I'm not getting any response please remove me from your email list Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Nilo Hernandez <hernandeznilo(a)gmail.com> Date: 10/03/2016 3:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> Subject: Re: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information By the way... they are self elected. In order to get rid of them, it must be by elections. The president is elected by the Directors. we can discuss further at another time. 73w4hn Nilo A. Hernandez, M.S. Personal: HernandezNilo(a)gmail.comAARP: nhernandez(a)aarp.org 305-219-2252 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM, <k2hxc(a)comcast.net> wrote: To Bryan FieldsFrom Michael Wolfre: FRC I did not ask to be on the discussion group nor did I appreciate the emails.I do agree that the things might need to be improved with the FRC howeveri DO NOT wish to recieve any more emails. Please REMOVE me from this disscussion group and please DO NOT .. I repeat DO NOT SEND ANY MORE EMAILS REGARDING THIS.I will be up in Melbourne and will hopefully attend the FRC meeting.Thank you From: "Bryan Fields" <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> To: frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:22:22 PM Subject: [FRC] Florida Repeater Council Information Greetings and welcome to the Florida Repeater Discussion List, I am Bryan Fields, W9CR. I’m involved in amateur radio in the Tampa Bay area, with membership in four local clubs and chairman of the Technical Committee for my local group. Professionally I am a Network Architect with a major telecom company. I’ve been a licensed amateur since 1995 (over 2/3 of my life), hold a GROL+Radar and have a background in cellular/microwave networks. Fellow Amateurs, the FRC is an organization run amuck. Incompetent directors are managing it, flouting the bylaws, violating Florida Law, and ignoring member needs. I am asking for your proxy for the upcoming FRC meeting. It has failed in its ability to coordinate operations of amateur radio repeaters in the following ways: Publication of the FRC database on a public websiteThis database dump in MySQL format and the associated webpages show without a doubt the level of incompetency in the programming behind the database. This is nothing but gross negligence on the part of Director Rodakis and Director Lavender. Per the coordination policy, locations are to be kept secret, however a Reddit user was kind enough to post a Google earth KML showing the coordinated location of every repeater in the state. All your personal data, phone, email, home address, repeater site address and Repeater Site GPS coordinates are published. Length of the coordination process is unacceptable! As of this writing coordination applications post 1/25/2016 have not been processed. It’s October!If the coordinator cannot process applications in a reasonable time, he needs to step down.Renewals have not been processed post 5/7/2016! As most coordinations expire on 9/30/2016, this means no members may vote under the bylaws! This applies to the board as well. Violation of the coordination policy by the directorsWillful violation of the bylaws by the directorsWillful violations of FS 617 regarding members request for informationAcknowledged receipt of this by President KassisPublicly stating the policy of the FRC is “is unable to search for available frequencies”, when this is the FCC definition of a frequency coordinator. When they do suggest frequencies there active repeaters on them, some even coordinated well under the radius.Inventing new coordination polices on the fly without approval of the board The FRC must be reformed if it wishes to keep its legitimacy. Frequency coordination is voluntary in amateur radio, and there is little reason for amateur radio operators in Florida to seek coordination from the FRC under this current administration. My goal is to transform this organization into a healthy helping hand for repeater operators and other amateur spectrum users. No one should be answered with contempt for months after putting an application in for coordination only to be told “fill it out again, we can’t edit it”. This should not be an organization which exists as a good-ol’-boy system breading contempt; rather one which operates in the open, in accordance with its bylaws, and accountable to its members. The FRC should ask how to say “Yes” rather than saying “No” in working with their members and other amateurs. My plan to get us on the right track is: Remove the current directors for gross incompetency and exposing the organization to liability:Ray Kassis, N4LEMDana Rodakis, K4LK(Glenn) Mike Fletcher, NI4MChuck Lavender, W4CLLDemand new elections for existing directors in compliance with the bylaws.Establish a bylaw committee to rewrite the bylaws and change the organization structure to better serve all amateurs in Florida.Establish a development process for new policies from the membershipEncourage input from the membership based on sound technical policiesDe-centralize coordination by having a web enabled database be accessible to the public showing all history of an application through coordination.No one person should be the gatekeeper of the database. Make all records of the FRC open to the public, as any non-profit serving the public interest must be. I will make a motion to accomplish this at the next meeting at the Melbourne Hamfest meeting. To make this happen, I am asking for your proxy, if you’re a member of the FRC. You will need to print out this form and sign it, then send a scan or legible picture of it to me via email or text message. If you can attend the meeting, please do so. It’s $10 to become a member on the FRC website and it buys the right to have a say in the future of amateur radio in Florida. http://florida-repeaters.org/donate.htm I fully expect to be shouted down by the board, but as members we cannot be ignored. I wish to resolve this via the membership, but if ignored I do intend to comply the board, by any legal means, to follow the bylaws and FS 617. I need your proxy by the Friday, October 7, 2016. 73’s and see you at Melbourne, Bryan Fields, W9CR P.S. Please feel free to discuss this on list. If you wish to not be a part of this discussion you can remove yourself using the link at the bottom. I'm happy to oblige your wishes via direct email as well if you have any questions. _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info _______________________________________________ FRC-Info mailing list FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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Re: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership
by bserdynski＠tampabay.rr.com 03 Oct '16

03 Oct '16

Remove me from email list. I have unsubscribed from site but never received a email to confirm. I am over loaded with emails. Please take action in this matter asap. Bserdynski(a)tampabay.rr.comOn Oct 3, 2016 1:55 PM, grassa(a)earthlink.net wrote: > > Please remove me at once from your email list. I tried to do it from the link and it did not work. My inbox is crashing from all the email. > > Grassa(a)earthlink.net > > > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > Date: 10/03/2016 11:20 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Florida Repeater Council Discussion <frc-info(a)lists.keekles.org> > Subject: [FRC] Updated Proxy Form/Membership > > A member remade the proxy form to be a bit more legal looking in a docx and > pdf format. > > Please use either form and get them back to me ASAP if you wish to reform the FRC. > > Word Format: > http://bryanfields.net/FRC-info/Proxy%20Form.docx > > PDF: > http://bryanfields.net/FRC-info/Proxy%20Form.pdf > > It's been brought to my attention the FRC membership website was taken > off-line. I can only suspect to keep people from becoming members or renewing. > > Regardless, if you are not currently a member or there is doubt to your > membership status, please send me a proxy anyways. I will pay dues on your > behalf at the meeting and we can settle up after the meeting. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > FRC-Info mailing list > FRC-Info(a)lists.keekles.org > http://lists.keekles.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/frc-info

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