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KC6HUR/IRLP Weather scripts
by Don Russell 21 Feb '13

21 Feb '13

A couple years ago I hacked up randy's scripts to get the weather to work with allstar. I am redoing them now that the NWS went with the CAP protocol and zapped the RSS feed. before I completely re-invent the wheel has anyone else done this. Right now I am in grep sed hell . I am rewriting the scripts to go grab the weather the new way the NWS wants you to. its a hell of a mess right now. go get a url, part out a url go get that parse out text it's mostly working for one alert, but if there are more than one it gets really complex parsing that out. It does still get the current conditions and forecast still. sends it to cepstral for TTS and save them as ulaw for asterisk to play. If no one has done it can anyone chime in a help with the parsing. there is a perl module to do this but my perl-fu is weak! -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us

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Update on app_rpt working on 3.x kernels?
by Shane Morris 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Hi Anthony, and list, I suspect some of you have had a look at the code on github, I haven't had a good look yet, but I plan to over the coming weeks. What I'd like to know is if anyone, apart from Anthony himself, has gotten this code working, and from all, if theres any "gotchas" I should observe in getting the code running. Additionally, due to things being a mess in Centos land (ie, everyones problems with ACiD booting on HP thin clients off USB stick, and my continuing problems with Centos anyway), I've decided to use Voyage ONE for my PABX controller, which is based on Debian. I have it running now on my thin client, and it needs to be configured properly. I have a friend who will assist with that, when we both get some time off...! In the meantime, due to the fact they're only $80 delivered, and I like them, they'll boot off an 8GB USB flash stick just fine (meaning I don't even touch the internal 2GB IDE SSD) I'm getting another thin client when I can, and attempting to run Anthony's code on it, under Arch Linux. Since I'm a Debian man, I'll just have to get my head around Pacman, but I have used it in the past, it seems similar to Debian. Of course, in the lead up to it, I'd like to know if anyone has run the code, gotten it working, and how you found it? My many thanks in advance for your help! Shane.

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Re : Re: [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies
by pete M 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Why a service monitor? A deviation meter wont do it? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sawyer Sent: 20 Feb 2013 03:59:07 GMT To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org list,Benjamin L. Naber Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] App_rpt Install for Dummies You know, that's so true. It's really important for you (or a friend) to have a service monitor and the knowledge to use it properly. App_rpt makes setting up a node so much easier and accurate than any of the other VoIP technologies, which is one of the reasons app_rpt sounds so good, but you still have to know what your are doing. My "App_rpt Install for Dummies" focused on the computer setup and assumes you're a radio wiz. -- Tim :wq On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Benjamin L. Naber <benjamin(a)kb9lfz.com> wrote: > One must not forget to become a friendly ham and ask for training from > someone or ham club that has one, on how to *properly* use a service > monitor to tune their allstar node setups. > > While there is an alternative way, I really don't recommend it if they > are going to have a community of users. > > ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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App_rpt Install for Dummies
by Tim Sawyer 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq

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Limey Linux
by Ryan Collier 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Greetings all, I was wondering if there is any one that can help me with Limey linux? I just acquired a Mini-Itx and want to run asterisk on it. I want to use it to replace the laptop that I am using for it. I need to have festival and W0AMN Weather script dependecies installed but can not find yum or apt-get on it. Can I just compile everything by hand? 73 Ryan KB8PMY

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies
by K&R Yoksh 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

Couldn't help adding my .02, from the "cheap skate" point of view. 1a. Use the IRLP board you might already have (or buy a used one from a disgruntled IRLP owner, or build my homebrew PLRI circuit) 1b. Buy a $12 USB fob 1c. Reformat the IRLP hard drive you might already have 1d. Follow the "how to convert from IRLP to Allstar" article on my web site www.qsl.net/k0kn 1e. Enjoy! 73 Kyle Yoksh K0KN Olathe, KS Allstar 2210-2219 --- Original Message --- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:17:42 -0800 From: Tim Sawyer To: "app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org list" <App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> Subject: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt Install for Dummies Message-ID: <8C85E72F-4302-49DB-AF96-EDE424E7757E(a)me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The install process for beginners goes like this: 1. Buy a URI (recommended) or a cheap USB sound FOB 2. Go on the Allstar web site. Request an ID, get it approved. 3. Download the ACID iso and burn a CD. 4. Make your ID a sysOp, add a server, request a node(s). 5. Configure the server and assigned node(s). 6. Boot the CD and carefully follow the prompts. Expect to repeat steps 5 and 6 many times. It takes a while to sort it all out, stick to it. After you get the hang of the web install you can venture into the world of Linux and editing the conf files for advanced power user features. For example there is no web configuration for RTCMs but you can start with a URI config and hand modify. The change is actually pretty simple. Speaking of simple, for you cheap ass hams that want to run $80 computers don't do USBradio, use simpleUSB and wire up COR and PL. If you want to run Limey Linux rather than CentOS (ACID) you'll need to learn dd (it's available for Windows) to write a CF card. There are a couple of other tricks to Limey, like svcfg. Beginners should drop ACID first, it's the gateway drug to Limey. Be sure to read through all the links on the Allstar (https://allstarlink.org/) site BEFORE you login. Because after login the menu changes and much (if not all) of the basic information goes away. Also browse the ohnosec (http://ohnosec.org/drupal/) site. You don't need an ID to read this site. PS - ohnosec, that moment you realize you really screwed up. -- Tim :wq

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Remote Base BCD Channel Steering
by Ed Wilhelm 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

I thought I saw mention once of bcd for remote base channel steering, but now not able to locate it. Can some one point me in the right direction? Thanks Ed W8VT Node 27849 Beckley, WV

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Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media
by Shane Morris 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media To: pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not a good situation. However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and thus not losing any licences? Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the licencing here. Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? Thanks! On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Morris > Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT > To: Don Hackler > Cc: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoyé de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 à 17:45, "Don Hackler" <donh(a)sigma.net> a écrit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> <Mail Attachment.txt> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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Fwd: Suitability of boot media
by Don Hackler 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

Begin forwarded message: > From: Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >

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Fwd: Re: [Bulk] Suitability of boot media
by Shane Morris 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> Date: 18/02/2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media To: "pete M" <petem001(a)hotmail.com> Driver issue? Or just plain not supported? On 18/02/2013 2:26 PM, "pete M" <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Limey did not work on my t5630.. > > Envoyé de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 à 21:54, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin(a)kb9lfz.com> a écrit > : > > > You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me > >> today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was > >> recommended by one of the members of the list. > >> > >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and > >> leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media > >> under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB > >> IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait > >> another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > >> > >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that > >> I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether > >> it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt > >> (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). > >> > >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, > >> there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably > >> security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so > >> I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally > >> secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on > >> an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the > >> world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections > >> over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs > >> to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). > >> > >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, > >> I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish > >> the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > >> > >> Thanks in advance for all your help! > >> > >> Shane. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >

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