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Fwd: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 85, Issue 52
by James Cizek 30 Mar '16

30 Mar '16

Mark, Saw your post about RTCM and Garmin 18LVC. If your Garmin is fairly new, it's quite possible you've run into the same problem as I did. Garmin changed the specs on the unit and *didn't* update any docs. The 1 PPS line coming from the new units is only 3 volts instead of 5 Volts. The RTCM is expecting 5 Volts. It is possible to modify your RTCM to accept the 3 volts, however, I still had trouble with this after the mod and never could get it working reliably. A better solution is to just use a GPS that puts out the correct levels. I am looking at moving to Symmetricom/Furano units. They can be had cheap, are already designed to be mounted outside, are RS422/RS485 outputs so can be run long distance, and are way more hardy than the little garmin puck. One little RS422->TTL converter inside, with a buffer driver behind it and you can run many RTCMs off the single GPS signal coming in. If you are installing at a repeater site, they are seem to be a good alternative to the Garmin, and are way cheaper than the Trimble. Hope that helps. 73 James KI0KN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org> Date: Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:26 AM Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 85, Issue 52 To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner(a)ohnosec.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Garmin GPS 18 LVC RTCM wiring (Mark DuMoulin @ WB2ERS) 2. Re: Garmin GPS 18 LVC RTCM wiring (Skyler F) 3. Re: Non-RTCM voter, where? (Joe Leikhim) 4. Re: Non-RTCM voter, where? (Jeff Ackerman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:41:32 +0000 From: "Mark DuMoulin @ WB2ERS" <wb2ers(a)metcom.com> To: "electricity440(a)gmail.com" <electricity440(a)gmail.com> Cc: "app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org>, Tim Sawyer <tisawyer(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Garmin GPS 18 LVC RTCM wiring Message-ID: <cde8aeb0edee46229c60c0f689178b3f(a)MAIL2.metcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Skyler, Good afternoon. I saw your post regarding the RTCM-GPS-18x LVC question. I would use the app_rpt site but cannot seem to get registered. I have tried many times to get registered on the app_rpt users but it always comes back no such user!!! Here's the question: I have two of the same RTCM and Garmin GPS 18x LVC. I have been completely unable to get either to work. I followed your wiring: RTCM GPS 18x LVC 6 GRX <-- Rx Data 6 Green 7 GPPS <-- Pulse Output 1 Yellow 8 GND Ground 3 Black 8 GND Ground 5 Black 13 +5V -->Vin 2 Red 14 GTX --> TX Data 4 White No joy. Did you get yours working? Anything you can share? I have a feeling that the Garmin's have been reprogrammed to something other than factory default 4800 in the PGRMF. Tnx, Mark DuMoulin Sr. WB2ERS 800-410-3130

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Garmin GPS 18 LVC RTCM wiring
by Mark DuMoulin ＠ WB2ERS 29 Mar '16

29 Mar '16

Skyler, Good afternoon. I saw your post regarding the RTCM-GPS-18x LVC question. I would use the app_rpt site but cannot seem to get registered. I have tried many times to get registered on the app_rpt users but it always comes back no such user!!! Here's the question: I have two of the same RTCM and Garmin GPS 18x LVC. I have been completely unable to get either to work. I followed your wiring: RTCM GPS 18x LVC 6 GRX <-- Rx Data 6 Green 7 GPPS <-- Pulse Output 1 Yellow 8 GND Ground 3 Black 8 GND Ground 5 Black 13 +5V -->Vin 2 Red 14 GTX --> TX Data 4 White No joy. Did you get yours working? Anything you can share? I have a feeling that the Garmin's have been reprogrammed to something other than factory default 4800 in the PGRMF. Tnx, Mark DuMoulin Sr. WB2ERS 800-410-3130

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Hamtronics receiver issue with AllStar RTCM
by Skyler F 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

Here is the schematic of the hamtronics output: amsatnet.info/r303out.png Isn't R34 and C44 a lowpass?? On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Skyler F <electricity440(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think normal would be disc., the only other display is deemphasized and > CTCSS filtered > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Steve Agee <n5zua(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> For this exercise, audio is either referenced as pre-emphasized >> (discriminator) or de-emphasized (speaker). So, by "normal" do you mean >> discriminator? >> >> N5ZUA >> >> On 3/28/2016 12:30 PM, Skyler F wrote: >> >> Actually, the normal audio output is probably what is needed, not >> de-emph. Again with the 10µF capacitor. >> >> >> Here is my entire output when I get Normal Audio as good as I can get it. >> Everything passes except for 3200Hz. >> >> Testing level at 100 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Testing level at 320 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Testing level at 500 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Testing level at 1000 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Testing level at 2000 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Testing level at 3200 Hz for Normal Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 10755, should have been between 6929 and 9374 >> >> Testing level at 100 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 11719, should have been between 100 and 451 >> >> Testing level at 320 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Testing level at 500 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Testing level at 1000 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Testing level at 2000 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 12326, should have been between 8989 and 12162 >> >> Testing level at 3200 Hz for CTCSS Filtered Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 11827, should have been between 6929 and 9374 >> >> Testing level at 1000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 45868, should have been between 9798 and 13257 >> >> Testing level at 2000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 41568, should have been between 4380 and 6155 >> >> Testing level at 3200 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >> >> Error -- Measured 43439, should have been between 2271 and 3073 >> >> Testing level at 3200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >> >> Error -- Measured 436, should have been between 0 and 50 >> >> Testing level at 6000 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >> >> Testing level at 7200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >> >> Error -- Measured 264, should have been between 500 and 1023 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Skyler F <electricity440(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I added a 10µF electrolytic capacitor in series with the Discriminator >>> output of my hamtronics, but was still not able to get the squelch >>> calibrated. Here was the diagnostic output: >>> >>> Testing level at 1000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >>> >>> Testing level at 2000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >>> >>> Error -- Measured 9581, should have been between 4380 and 6155 >>> >>> Testing level at 3200 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio >>> >>> Error -- Measured 10030, should have been between 2271 and 3073 >>> >>> Testing level at 3200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >>> >>> Error -- Measured 279, should have been between 0 and 50 >>> >>> Testing level at 6000 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >>> >>> Testing level at 7200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector >>> >>> Error -- Measured 211, should have been between 500 and 1023 >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Eric Guth < <eric(a)efratnetworks.net> >>> eric(a)efratnetworks.net> wrote: >>> >>>> 10 Uf , 35VDC will usually do the job. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Guth >>>> >>>> 4Z1UG >>>> >>>> Allstar: 28422 >>>> >>>> QSO Today <http://www.qsotoday.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org [mailto: >>>> app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org] *On Behalf Of *Skyler F >>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2016 7:35 AM >>>> *To:* Bryan Fields >>>> *Cc:* app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Hamtronics receiver issue with AllStar >>>> RTCM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Bryan, can you send me the exact wiring between your hamtronics and >>>> your RTCM? What value DC blocking capacitor, any jumpers in the RTCM >>>> selected etc...? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Skyler >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Bryan Fields < <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> >>>> Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 3/27/16 5:12 PM, Skyler F wrote: >>>> > For a voter project, we got the hamtronics VHF receiver pretuned to >>>> the >>>> > repeaters input frequency. The idea is to use hamtronics receivers for >>>> > every voted receive site for equivalent audio characteristics. >>>> >>>> > So... I hooked a cheap sound card up to audacity, and took a look at >>>> the >>>> > spectrum of each receiver. The hamtronics obviously looks like it >>>> lacks >>>> > high frequency noise on the discriminator output. >>>> >>>> > Does anybody else have experience with hamtronics receivers? >>>> >>>> Yes, I have a number of them in place and find they work perfectly with >>>> the >>>> RTCM. It can give about 2v P-P on the discriminator pin, and has the >>>> high >>>> frequency compute the RTCM squelch needs. >>>> >>>> My prime setup is here: >>>> http://gallery.keekles.org/d/28384-2/0330141929a.jpg >>>> >>>> Note you'll want to put a cap in line, as the discriminator is DC >>>> coupled in >>>> the hamtronics. Can you put a scope on the discriminator line and >>>> measure the >>>> voltage? You might have a problem with the receiver. >>>> >>>> 73's >>>> -- >>>> Bryan Fields >>>> >>>> 727-409-1194 - Voice >>>> 727-214-2508 - Fax >>>> http://bryanfields.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>>> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>>> <http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users> >>>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll >>>> down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the >>>> "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >>>> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >>>> the list detailing the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Skyler Fennell >>>> >>>> amsatnet.info >>>> >>>> KDØWHB >>>> >>>> <electricity440(a)gmail.com>electricity440(a)gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Skyler Fennell >>> amsatnet.info >>> KDØWHB >>> electricity440(a)gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Skyler Fennell >> amsatnet.info >> KDØWHB >> <electricity440(a)gmail.com>electricity440(a)gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users@ohnosec.orghttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. >> >> >> > > > -- > Skyler Fennell > amsatnet.info > KDØWHB > electricity440(a)gmail.com > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KDØWHB electricity440(a)gmail.com

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test- please disregard
by Jim Duuuude 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

test- please disregard

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Hamtronics receiver issue with AllStar RTCM
by Skyler F 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

I added a 10µF electrolytic capacitor in series with the Discriminator output of my hamtronics, but was still not able to get the squelch calibrated. Here was the diagnostic output: Testing level at 1000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio Testing level at 2000 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio Error -- Measured 9581, should have been between 4380 and 6155 Testing level at 3200 Hz for De-Emphasized Audio Error -- Measured 10030, should have been between 2271 and 3073 Testing level at 3200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector Error -- Measured 279, should have been between 0 and 50 Testing level at 6000 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector Testing level at 7200 Hz for Squelch Noise Detector Error -- Measured 211, should have been between 500 and 1023 On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Eric Guth <eric(a)efratnetworks.net> wrote: > 10 Uf , 35VDC will usually do the job. > > > > 73, > > > > Eric Guth > > 4Z1UG > > Allstar: 28422 > > QSO Today <http://www.qsotoday.com/> > > > > *From:* app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org [mailto: > app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org] *On Behalf Of *Skyler F > *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2016 7:35 AM > *To:* Bryan Fields > *Cc:* app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > *Subject:* Re: [App_rpt-users] Hamtronics receiver issue with AllStar RTCM > > > > Hi Bryan, can you send me the exact wiring between your hamtronics and > your RTCM? What value DC blocking capacitor, any jumpers in the RTCM > selected etc...? > > > > 73, > > Skyler > > > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > wrote: > > On 3/27/16 5:12 PM, Skyler F wrote: > > For a voter project, we got the hamtronics VHF receiver pretuned to the > > repeaters input frequency. The idea is to use hamtronics receivers for > > every voted receive site for equivalent audio characteristics. > > > So... I hooked a cheap sound card up to audacity, and took a look at the > > spectrum of each receiver. The hamtronics obviously looks like it lacks > > high frequency noise on the discriminator output. > > > Does anybody else have experience with hamtronics receivers? > > Yes, I have a number of them in place and find they work perfectly with the > RTCM. It can give about 2v P-P on the discriminator pin, and has the high > frequency compute the RTCM squelch needs. > > My prime setup is here: > http://gallery.keekles.org/d/28384-2/0330141929a.jpg > > Note you'll want to put a cap in line, as the discriminator is DC coupled > in > the hamtronics. Can you put a scope on the discriminator line and measure > the > voltage? You might have a problem with the receiver. > > 73's > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > 727-214-2508 - Fax > http://bryanfields.net > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down > to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the > "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. > > > > > > -- > > Skyler Fennell > > amsatnet.info > > KDØWHB > > electricity440(a)gmail.com > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KDØWHB electricity440(a)gmail.com

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Re: [App_rpt-users] DIAL on RPi no longer keeping correct time
by kk6ecm 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

No, I'm not familiar with it. The RPi 2 has been doing great for the past many months, until today. Thanks, Bob kk6ecm 73 Sent from iPad > On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:43 PM, Stacy Olivas <olivas(a)eurisko.ws> wrote: > > Do you have the RTC add on board? > > > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: kk6ecm <kk6ecm(a)gmail.com> > Date: 3/27/2016 9:11 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] DIAL on RPi no longer keeping correct time > > DIAL on RPi no longer keeping correct time. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Bob > kk6ecm > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

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DIAL on RPi no longer keeping correct time
by kk6ecm 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

DIAL on RPi no longer keeping correct time. Any ideas? Thanks, Bob kk6ecm

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Node 41879 unable to register (Dial)
by larry 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

Issue solved. Steve N4IRS pointed out I had an issue with my dnsmgr.conf. Thank You Steve! Larry - N7FM On 03/27/2016 05:12 PM, larry wrote: > I am trying to get a new install of Dial running on Node 41879. > > I believe I might have created my own problem during startup. I failed > to enter the node security number correctly when asked. > I assumed it would not register or try until after I had a chance to > correct the password in iax.conf once I could log in and proceeded > with the setup. > > Interruptions stopped my process before I could get the node totally > setup at that time. The node was left running and on the Internet for > a time. > I don't know if it was trying to register with the wrong password and > has been locked out or what. > > I see there is a file "savenode.conf" with node and password > information in it. > it includes a comment statement "# config file for > /usr/local/bin/savenode" The savenode file it mentions does not exist. > I have no knowledge if the savenode.conf provide it's content to some > other places or if the mentioned file being missing matters?? > Reason for asking at all is when I entered the wrong password > originally the bad data was stored in the savenode.conf file as well > as entered in the registration statement in iax.conf > > I have tried using both DHCP and Static at Allstar to make certain > networking was correct. > I changed ports at both locations thinking that might help. > > I verified that the node number and password currently match the data > showing on allstar.org. > I have also made certain the registration statement in iax.conf is > accurate. > > I am able to ping the registration server from the node but cannot > register with allstar.org. > > Using "iax2 show registration" it returns > Host 0.0.0.0:4569 and returns State as unregistered. > > Node works fine if I connect to off Allstar nodes it just won't > register at Allstar. > > Suggestions? or dump it and start over? > > Larry - N7FM > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll > down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the > "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > to the list detailing the problem.

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Node 41879 unable to register (Dial)
by larry 28 Mar '16

28 Mar '16

I am trying to get a new install of Dial running on Node 41879. I believe I might have created my own problem during startup. I failed to enter the node security number correctly when asked. I assumed it would not register or try until after I had a chance to correct the password in iax.conf once I could log in and proceeded with the setup. Interruptions stopped my process before I could get the node totally setup at that time. The node was left running and on the Internet for a time. I don't know if it was trying to register with the wrong password and has been locked out or what. I see there is a file "savenode.conf" with node and password information in it. it includes a comment statement "# config file for /usr/local/bin/savenode" The savenode file it mentions does not exist. I have no knowledge if the savenode.conf provide it's content to some other places or if the mentioned file being missing matters?? Reason for asking at all is when I entered the wrong password originally the bad data was stored in the savenode.conf file as well as entered in the registration statement in iax.conf I have tried using both DHCP and Static at Allstar to make certain networking was correct. I changed ports at both locations thinking that might help. I verified that the node number and password currently match the data showing on allstar.org. I have also made certain the registration statement in iax.conf is accurate. I am able to ping the registration server from the node but cannot register with allstar.org. Using "iax2 show registration" it returns Host 0.0.0.0:4569 and returns State as unregistered. Node works fine if I connect to off Allstar nodes it just won't register at Allstar. Suggestions? or dump it and start over? Larry - N7FM

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AllStar Macros
by Steve Mahler 25 Mar '16

25 Mar '16

Good day! I am writing user macros on an ACID Distribution server on a Dell PC. I have some questions about Macros ... 1) some documentation shows "5=macro", other docs show "5=macro,1". Is there a difference? What would macro,2 do?? 2) is there a limit to the number of characters in a macro? I saw in one document the limit was only 32 characters. True? If not, what is the limit? 3) and in case 32 characters is correct ... Can I call a macro from a macro without looping back to a previous macro to increase the number of commands? Two cases ... A->B->C or A->B->C->A. If A calls B in the middle of the string of characters, and B ends, does the macro call end or does control transfer back to the character after where B was called. ...STeve - KF5VH

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