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Wireless ISP help
by Skyler F 11 Jul '16

11 Jul '16

We are getting internet from a microwave link wireless ISP on a mountiantop. According to Mountain Broadband, ports are not blocked, and they don't have a firewall. However, when I plug my computer or router into the jack, I am automatically assigned a 10.1.50.x address. Why is this happening? I never requested an IP manually, it assigned me a DHCP IP. Inbound ports are all blocked to my router behind the DHCP IP address when I try to login under the public IP. However... the mountaintop site has a static Public IP that is unique to itself. Can someone explain how this works, and what information I need exactly to get inbound port forwarding to work to my mikrotik router from whatever Mountain Broadband has behind it ? 73 Skyler

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Wireless ISP help
by Skyler F 11 Jul '16

11 Jul '16

It's a deal with us providing them a tower and they provide us Internet. I called his cell and he said ports aren't blocked and that I just need the IP, gateway address and the subnet mask. It was a Sunday so the IT people weren't there but I need to get that information from them. I kept asking about a firewall on there end and they said there's none and that I can get inbound ports. A static IP was even written in pen on the shed so there's something I think I have to configure I'm just super confused on what his setup is. On Sunday, July 10, 2016, Philip Dorr <kd0ixy(a)judgementgaming.com> wrote: > If you are paying for a static IP you either need to get the radio or ISP > provided router put into bridge mode, or get the username and password for > it. > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Skyler F <electricity440(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','electricity440(a)gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> We are getting internet from a microwave link wireless ISP on a >> mountiantop. According to Mountain Broadband, ports are not blocked, and >> they don't have a firewall. >> >> However, when I plug my computer or router into the jack, I am >> automatically assigned a 10.1.50.x address. Why is this happening? I never >> requested an IP manually, it assigned me a DHCP IP. >> >> Inbound ports are all blocked to my router behind the DHCP IP address >> when I try to login under the public IP. >> >> However... the mountaintop site has a static Public IP that is unique to >> itself. >> >> Can someone explain how this works, and what information I need exactly >> to get inbound port forwarding to work to my mikrotik router from whatever >> Mountain Broadband has behind it ? >> >> 73 >> Skyler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org');> >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll >> down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the >> "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to >> the list detailing the problem. >> > > -- Skyler Fennell amsatnet.info KDØWHB electricity440(a)gmail.com

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Wireless ISP help
by Steve Wright 11 Jul '16

11 Jul '16

On 11/07/16 16:43, Skyler F <electricity440(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We are getting internet from a microwave link wireless ISP on a > mountiantop. According to Mountain Broadband, ports are not blocked, and > they don't have a firewall. > > However, when I plug my computer or router into the jack, I am > automatically assigned a 10.1.50.x address. Why is this happening? I never > requested an IP manually, it assigned me a DHCP IP. > > Inbound ports are all blocked to my router behind the DHCP IP address when > I try to login under the public IP. > > However... the mountaintop site has a static Public IP that is unique to > itself. > > Can someone explain how this works, and what information I need exactly to > get inbound port forwarding to work to my mikrotik router from whatever > Mountain Broadband has behind it ? I'm a wireless ISP. You've been given a NAT IP address. They're trying to economise because real IPs cost money. This next bit is important - understand this well - TALK to them - they're geeks, just like you, not corporates. Go VISIT them and laugh and smile and show interest in how their network runs. Talk about what you are building, and what you want to do and why it will be cool, and tell them about ham radio. Help them do a job, like concreting a pole in the ground, and pull a cable for them. THEN tell them you want a real IP, and other stuff too, and watch them give you access to their entire network. I would, and I do - it's hard to give it away for free, and it's hard to find people like you. Not what you thought, is it. ;) Steve

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Whats everyone's thoughts on VMware sphere with dial?
by Loren Tedford 10 Jul '16

10 Jul '16

Whats every ones thoughts on doing vmware sphere cluster host on the main machine that runs the radios.. Then taking dial and making it a vm image floating between the servers.. Is it possible that the uri's will connect up to asterisk if i get them ported into the vm?? Whats the possibility of higher jitter levels?? So far I have been able to get Virtualbox to pass through the URI to a radio I would assume that it would run full duplex if it had to but I really want to make things a little more versatile and reliable. Reason I had asked is because i am doing work on the main frame server tonight and considering running vmware across all the servers from the house to the datacenter and repeater site. Any advice? has anyone done anything similar? Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Phone:###-###-#### Fax: 1-###-###-#### Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com Email: KC9ZHV(a)KC9ZHV.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://Ltcraft.net <http://ltcraft.net/>

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 87, Issue 51
by Steve Wright 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

On 30/05/16 04:00, app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org wrote: > Then run up Xipar and be done with it. As described, that's $1000 worth of interfacing instead of $45. That's a no go.

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Re: [App_rpt-users] usb fobs
by Steve Wright 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

On 10/07/16 04:00,"B. McIntosh [Pace]" <bmcintosh(a)paceprofessional.co.uk> wrote: > [...] I decided to design a circuit board to integrate a CM119 with > one of the small Dorji radio modules which has proved succcessful, the > resulting nodes being integrated into a 2.4Ghz AREDN network. That looks nice. If you make the manufacturing files available, it is quite easy and cheap to get a PCB run made in china. Steve

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Re: [App_rpt-users] usb fobs
by B. McIntosh [Pace] 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

I got very frustrated trying to source suitable usb fobs in the UK. Various alternative solutions such as the URI seem to attract too many on-costs for shipping, customs etc to make them viable alternatives over here in Scotland. I decided to design a circuit board to integrate a CM119 with one of the small Dorji radio modules which has proved succcessful, the resulting nodes being integrated into a 2.4Ghz AREDN network. http://www.feednet.org.uk Since then I did a much smaller board that provides just the functionality of a usb fob but with better RF filtering and an 8P8C socket for the radio interface. It is possible to obtain PCBs from Itead for example, for only a few dollars, even in production runs of as little as 10. The CM119s I sourced from AliExpress. All have seemed ok so far. I also got some from a mainstream US chip supplier. That is not to say that there won't be supply problems in the future - just relating my experience. Making your own isn't for everyone, but it really isn't that hard to do and I find it's a more pleasant experience than trying to bodge existing fobs. 73 Bernie GM4WZG

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Holy schtuff! Just got the CHIP
by Buddy Brannan 09 Jul '16

09 Jul '16

Hi y'all, Well...this could be fun... I just got the CHIP from http://www.getchip.com They're finally catching up all these preorders; I orderd way back after Thanksgiving when they had $1 off, so you could get the $9 CHIP for $8. Well, really, $13, because of $5 shipping. OK fine. If you thought the Pi was small, this thing is even smaller. Built-in wifi and bluetooth, 4GB onboard storage., 1 USB port, 1 micro USB (which I think can also send data, but is mostly for power), one connectory for audio out+video or audio out+mic in No SD card slot...I don't think it's big enough for one anyway. Oh, and no ethernet. Again, is it even big enough? Now...if I can get a version of DIAL rolled together for it. ...or a version of asterisk with app_rpt built on its Ubuntu derivative... Heck...the USB audio interface might just be bigger than the computer. *Hmm* And interestingly, this is slightly more than. bare circuit board, even with no case on it it actually has the board mounted in something. I really could just about see a handheld All Star node with one of these strapped to the back of a handheld. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy(a)brannan.name

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Re: [App_rpt-users] usbfobs
by Steve Wright 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

On 07/07/16 01:10, app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org wrote: > There are a lot of us out here that prefer to run hardened > server-grade hardware at remote tower sites rather than Pi's or other > small SBC's. --- Jeff That's a generalisation - that the RPI3 are unreliable. It'd be nice to throw high-end hardware at everything, but if you had a very large system to build - I don't think you would be doing that. And we do have a very large system to build... Lists aren't about one person building one machine, lists are about system-builders assembling a nation - and that process being doable with quality dividends, so it is easy for one person to announce costs being minimal for one system, but if that single device were implemented globally, that would be six or seven figures. That'd be nice for those who supplied that device, but I don't think they'll get it. I mean to say, app_rpt can, and should, be on every transmit and receive interface on every mountaintop. Be honest - conversion of all systems is our goal, not because we might, but because of the immense flexibility it would forward, without really any effort at all. So how to actually get that? Using a $300 box for every TX and RX? No, it's not going to happen. Using a <$100 box with four TX and four RX interfaces? Just maybe.. > I suggest finding a way to replace the I/O lines with something else > because ANY dsp should work fine for the audio. I think the PI itself > has them. Just have to write the code to replace it OR use "ON-EVENT" > programming to read/write to them to follow ptt/cos. The Pi is already good to go, and some of the channel drivers will already use the onboard I/O. There just isn't a driver that does ALSA audio, DSP, generic GPIO, and voting. If there was, we'd never be having this discussion ever again. Also, it'd be dead trivial to write a config script to set the whole thing up. > drivers? hardware? integration with existing codebase? takes time and > (unpaid) effort. -- Bryan All the really great ideas get implemented at some stage. The person who WANTS to do it, notes it and puts it on the back burner - to be implemented NEXT. All visionaries implement the BEST idea, not their own idea. Discussions like this only pave the way, or is it 'a' way.. Or maybe, digital is better... S

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Re: [App_rpt-users] usbfobs
by Steve Wright 06 Jul '16

06 Jul '16

On 06/07/16 04:00, app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org wrote: > Have you purchased and used any of the chips from Alibaba? I have had BAD luck in the past getting > cm119's from eBay and such. I get them from a CMedia distributor for about $2 each. Yes, they are > more expensive, but I know if I take the time to solder them to a board, they will work!!! I have had a few fake products delivered, but always they are extremely fast on the 'refund and apologise profusely' button. I wouldn't call it a bad experience. S

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