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Remote Base BCD Channel Steering
by Ed Wilhelm 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

I thought I saw mention once of bcd for remote base channel steering, but now not able to locate it. Can some one point me in the right direction? Thanks Ed W8VT Node 27849 Beckley, WV

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Fwd: Re : Re: Fwd: Suitability of boot media
by Shane Morris 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Re : Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media To: pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> Ok, I'm finding it hard to get my head around this, as I have held both amateur and commercial licences, and indeed used both. As far as I know, legislation in Australia wouldn't allow for me to arbitrarily - even by accident - link an amateur network to a commercial network. I'd lose all my licences, and probably my job. Not a good situation. However, according to Don, it sounds like hes doing precisely what I'm thinking. What he isn't explaining is what ARE the networks. Ok, its a large SIP network with an endpoint that just happens to be a ACiD install. Cool. But what does the ACiD install connect to? Amateur, or PMR? And if its commercial, how does he stop all the nice amateurs playing AllStar, as we do, from connecting to his PMR network, and thus not losing any licences? Look, these might be silly questions - but I'm told its "a radio network." Ok, theres many types of radio networks. I understand you guys mostly play amateur. I want to play commercial. Is that allowed? I mean, realistically, do you have any CBRS or GMRS endpoints on AllStar? If so, how does that work? If not, then its cause of the licences. I'm working under being totally in the dark about the licencing here. Would it help if I just described what I want to do, and someone gives me a "Yes it can be done" or "No you can't do that"? Thanks! On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM, pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > If you dont use any linking that is not. On your licence I dont see why it would not be ok. But I am notvthe best to answer that question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Morris > Sent: 18 Feb 2013 05:32:41 GMT > To: Don Hackler > Cc: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Fwd: Suitability of boot media > > Just as a point of interest, could you use the AllStar SIP service for > commercial (ie, non amateur) applications? > > However, your configuration you describe is pretty much what I envisage... > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> wrote: >> >> While improved security is a factor, the main reason for separate installs >> is that AllStar/app_rpt runs on a forked asterisk distribution based on >> Asterisk 1.4 >> and PAIF runs on much later Asterisk versions. Asterisk 1.8 is the oldest >> stable distro for PAIF you would want to run on a new install. >> >> The main reason for the fork is that AllStar/apt_rpt runs on the Zaptel >> framework and the newer Asterisk versions don't support Zaptel. >> The app_rpt that is in the current Asterisk distributions was pretty much >> abandoned in place. >> >> PAIF offers a much nicer web-gui PBX operation and is substantially easier >> to run for general purpose PBX situations. >> Out of the box, PAIF has several dozen nice features already running while >> the Acid/AllStar distro is very much a totally stripped down basic command >> line >> driven system. >> >> If all you are going to do is glue a couple of radios together and maybe >> hook up one SIP trunk, then just use the ACID AllStar distro. >> It's fine for that, preferably using the AllStar SIP trunk service, since >> the configuration is well known and it's inexpensive. >> >> I run several PAIF installations all tied together in a fairly large >> network, serving SIP phones at several locations. >> The single ACID AllStar distro running on a dedicated box appears to my >> larger network as a single extension that happens to be a radio. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:28 PM, pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> What would this kind of setup give aside more security? >> >> Envoyé de mon iPad >> >> Le 17 Feb 2013 à 17:45, "Don Hackler" <donh(a)sigma.net> a écrit : >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> >> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media >> Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST >> To: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> >> >> You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. >> Use IAX to connect the two. >> >> If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a >> different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and >> then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF >> box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. >> >> Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable >> setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) >> >> For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a >> Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. >> >> On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, >> and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by >> one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave >> the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the >> cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, >> certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of >> weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can >> see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be >> suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I >> take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there >> are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security >> issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing >> 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you >> recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 >> "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on >> using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the >> outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, >> indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have >> to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, >> which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> <Mail Attachment.txt> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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Fwd: Suitability of boot media
by Don Hackler 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

Begin forwarded message: > From: Don Hackler <donh(a)sigma.net> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Suitability of boot media > Date: February 17, 2013 2:44:31 PM PST > To: Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> > > You will need to run PAIF and AllStar on separate boxes. > Use IAX to connect the two. > > If you only have one outside IP address, you can put change AllStar to use a different port for it's outside IAX connection to the AllStar network and then the PAIF box can use the standard IAX port (if needed). Your the PAIF box to connect to the usual VOIP trunk providers. > > Use the 32 bit Centos 6.3 PAIF distro and install PAIF Purple for a stable setup. (Asterisk 1.8, FreePBX 2.10) > > For light duty applications, I've heard good reports about running PAIF on a Rasberry Pi, but that's still a bit experimental. > > On Feb 17, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Shane Morris <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. >> >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. >> >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). >> >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). >> >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. >> >> Thanks in advance for all your help! >> >> Shane. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >

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Fwd: Re: [Bulk] Suitability of boot media
by Shane Morris 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> Date: 18/02/2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] [Bulk] Suitability of boot media To: "pete M" <petem001(a)hotmail.com> Driver issue? Or just plain not supported? On 18/02/2013 2:26 PM, "pete M" <petem001(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Limey did not work on my t5630.. > > Envoyé de mon iPad > > Le 17 Feb 2013 à 21:54, "Benjamin L. Naber" <Benjamin(a)kb9lfz.com> a écrit > : > > > You can install Limey Linux on as small as 512MB. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 08:05 +1100, Shane Morris wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me > >> today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was > >> recommended by one of the members of the list. > >> > >> First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and > >> leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media > >> under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB > >> IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait > >> another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. > >> > >> Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that > >> I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether > >> it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt > >> (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). > >> > >> Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, > >> there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably > >> security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so > >> I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally > >> secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on > >> an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the > >> world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections > >> over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs > >> to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). > >> > >> Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, > >> I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish > >> the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. > >> > >> Thanks in advance for all your help! > >> > >> Shane. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> App_rpt-users mailing list > >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >

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Suitability of boot media
by Shane Morris 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

Hi all, I am supposed to be having a HP T5630w thin client delivered to me today, and I was planning to install PBX In A Flash on it, which was recommended by one of the members of the list. First up, can I install from say a 1GB stick to a 8 or 16GB stick, and leave the larger stick semi-permanently in the machine as boot media under the cover at the top? The thin client is quoted with only a 2GB IDE SSD, certainly not enough for this OS, and I don't want to wait another couple of weeks for postage on a 32GB IDE SSD. Next question, which is the best version of PIAF to get? Nowhere that I can see does it quote which version of Asterisk its using or whether it would be suitable for use with the correct version for app_rpt (which is 1.4 as I take it from numerous discussions). Last question - this'll be running on the thin client, and as we know, there are *some* security issues with 1.4 (of course, theres probably security issues with 1.8 too, but they haven't been exploited yet, so I'm not bashing 1.4, I know no piece of networked software is totally secure) so would you recommend using this "repeater controller" box on an IAX trunk to a 1.8 "PABX controller" box, and let the PABX face the world? I fully intend on using the internal but offsite connections over a VPN, but to get to the outside world and onto the PSTN it needs to go through my ITSPs, Exetels, indial account(s). Of course, if this is recommended, which I strongly suspect it is, I'll have to get another thin client and load 1.8 on it, and establish the IAX trunk, which I imagine would be a simple exercise. Thanks in advance for all your help! Shane.

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Re ACID install iso on Micro sd??
by REDBUTTON_CTRL 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

Is it possible to install ACID ISO onto an micro SD card and install ACID from the SD? Thanks, Jon VA3RQ

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Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal‏
by Thomas Delmonego 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

Hi, it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in what file? Many thanks for help! 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ

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Timeout Issue
by Steve Schulze 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

Hello all. I'm currently having a problem with time-out on 27727. We are playing ARRL Audio News from the AllStarBox and about 3-1/2 to 4 minutes into it I get a 27727 time out. I have the node setup as duplex=0 and linktolink=yes and have the totime=180000 commented out (for no tot). I have tried to play this file from the box and also from my other node 27616 and I have the same result. 27727 times out but 27616 keeps playing over the air (on it's own box and own repeater) Watching the Asterisk CLI, I actually see the system time out. I see it speak 2 7 7 2 7 RPT/TIMEOUT then HANGUP. But I don't hear the timeout over the air because the system has already unkeyed. I have verified that the PTT has stopped when this occurs and it's not the timers on the SCOM 7330 causing it. Am I missing some other timer in one of the other conf files? Also, the time-out varies. Not exactly the same time, each time. But consistently 3-1/2 to 4 minutes. Thanks in advance! -- Amateur Radio - The Original Social Media Steve Schulze - Radio Amateur, General Class - N9UDO Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin D-Star System - WB9FDZ Administrator, Baraboo, Wisconsin AllStarLink Systems - 27616, 27727 Treasurer, Badgerland Amateur Television Society - KB9SFS http://yellowthunder.org/dstar.html

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Fwd: Re: Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal
by Shane Morris 17 Feb '13

17 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Shane Morris" <edgecomberts(a)gmail.com> Date: 18/02/2013 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Avoid squelch noise after receiving a signal To: "Thomas Delmonego" <iw3amq(a)dnet.it> Do you mean the tone or the "tail"? The tone is a function of the software, although I am not versed enough to tell you how to control that. If you mean the tail (the carrier that clicks back after an "over") then thats actually a part of your repeater, and not set in the app_rpt software, as far as I'm aware, as most repeaters I've used, connected to the internet or not, have had a tail of varying degrees (imagine a three minute tail - ikes!). Its probably the best idea if you don't want any tail - which I'm not even sure if you could properly implement - that you use a tone to acknowledge the repeater has heard you. Otherwise, you'll never know if you're getting through. Of course, we use a short tone and tail to tell us we got in, and we can talk through our tail on the LOX board and Simoco repeater, however, another system I used, I wasn't able to talk through the (thankfully short) tail. Hope this helps! On 18/02/2013 3:53 AM, "Thomas Delmonego" <iw3amq(a)dnet.it> wrote: > > Hi, > it's possible to avoid the typical squelch noise after the reception of a > valid signal from a repeater RX? Is there a specific setting, if yes in > what file? > Many thanks for help! > 73! Thomas, IW3AMQ > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >

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Simple node
by Alan Adamson 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

All, I think I know the answer to this, but figured I'd check again. Yes I know I could do an RTCM (I have 5 of them already). I'm looking to get another family member (new ham) up with a personal node. Was hoping that someone might have done something around the Beagle Bone as the Pi seems to no be up for the task. I could live with simpleusb if needed. Are there any *inexpensive* options to get to a functional simpleusb type node? If so, what are they? Thanks in advance, Alan

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