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Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org (Chuck Henderson)
by Pawlowski, Adam 24 Nov '14

24 Nov '14

Can you run a reverse proxy or something similar that retrieves the data securely over your internet connection, and provides it to you without that encryption? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:49:59 -0600 > From: Chuck Henderson <rpt2(a)chuck.midlandsnetworking.com> > To: Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org > Message-ID: > <CADEYVwi5PkNSM09hB5wjFvzZ4ZkJosMxXV2oOKQjgpV2_a=6EA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I don't think it applies to this. The encryption is not being used to > hide the content from the government. The government has full access to > read the content. The only requirement is they must capture the session > from the start and they must have access to a one million dollar device > that I have had access to. I know that they have that. In this case the > encryption is only to verify the communication is authentic and to prevent > unauthorized persons, other than the government, from breaking into the > system. At least, that is my story and I am sticking to it. > Chuck > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > wrote: > > > We can't do encryption over amateur radio, so when accessing it from > > my ham radio 3400 mhz network it's technically a rule violation. > > > > On November 16, 2014 11:54:10 AM EST, Jim Duuuude > > <telesistant(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> No, why? > >> > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:43:29 -0500 > >> > From: Bryan(a)bryanfields.net > >> > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org > >> > > >> > Is there a url I can use to access this that does not redirect to > >> > the > >> SSL server? > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Bryan Fields > >> > > >> > 727-409-1194 - Voice > >> > 727-214-2508 - Fax > >> > http://bryanfields.net > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > App_rpt-users mailing list > >> > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll > >> down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a > >> message to the list detailing the problem. > >> > > > > -- > > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 > > http://bryanfields.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll > > down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the > > "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > > to the list detailing the problem. > > >

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Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org (Chuck Henderson)
by mike＠midnighteng.com 24 Nov '14

24 Nov '14

For those that are writing there own scripts for use in asterisk/app_rpt and are wanting to access a ssl page in use of that. You can use a AGI script and whatever your flavor program lang inside of that to emulate a browser (i suggest chrome) using html,php,json to sort and "pipe" that HTTPS output to your other scripts. You should be able to do it all in AGI but I guess that depends on what you are doing. That is the basics of how it is done with one method. There are others. To much how-to for a email. Google can be your friend (sometimes). ...mike/kb8jnm -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org (Chuck Henderson) From: "Pawlowski, Adam" <ajp26(a)buffalo.edu> Date: Mon, November 24, 2014 10:50 am To: "app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> Can you run a reverse proxy or something similar that retrieves the data securely over your internet connection, and provides it to you without that encryption? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:49:59 -0600 > From: Chuck Henderson <rpt2(a)chuck.midlandsnetworking.com> > To: Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org > Message-ID: > <CADEYVwi5PkNSM09hB5wjFvzZ4ZkJosMxXV2oOKQjgpV2_a=6EA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I don't think it applies to this. The encryption is not being used to > hide the content from the government. The government has full access to > read the content. The only requirement is they must capture the session > from the start and they must have access to a one million dollar device > that I have had access to. I know that they have that. In this case the > encryption is only to verify the communication is authentic and to prevent > unauthorized persons, other than the government, from breaking into the > system. At least, that is my story and I am sticking to it. > Chuck > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > wrote: > > > We can't do encryption over amateur radio, so when accessing it from > > my ham radio 3400 mhz network it's technically a rule violation. > > > > On November 16, 2014 11:54:10 AM EST, Jim Duuuude > > <telesistant(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> No, why? > >> > >> > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:43:29 -0500 > >> > From: Bryan(a)bryanfields.net > >> > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org > >> > > >> > Is there a url I can use to access this that does not redirect to > >> > the > >> SSL server? > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Bryan Fields > >> > > >> > 727-409-1194 - Voice > >> > 727-214-2508 - Fax > >> > http://bryanfields.net > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > App_rpt-users mailing list > >> > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > >> > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >> > > >> > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll > >> down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > >> the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > >> > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > >> confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a > >> message to the list detailing the problem. > >> > > > > -- > > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 > > http://bryanfields.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll > > down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the > > "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message > > to the list detailing the problem. > > >

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Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org
by mike＠midnighteng.com 23 Nov '14

23 Nov '14

Bryan, I don't think you will have much luck with non SSL unless the host provides for it and that breaks the reason for using it. Message me direct on exactly what you are trying to achieve. It should be doable with SSL. Chuck, I think if you look closer, you will find that SSL is a method to say the "route" between the server and the end user is authentic and can only be used by that user in session. Much like the now infamous police use of sting-ray 2 is to cell phones interception. Putting yourself in the middle of data streams gives you complete access to the data without detection. In the beginning of e-commerce in the 90's and early 2000's, folks would insert themselves in the path of all data and transactions and intercept/record strings of data including Name, Address, CC #'s and SS #'s with automated scripts and transparent to either end because all the data would transpire as normal through them. SSL was the answer to that. With the use of encryption keys, they might get the data but can't make any sense of it, hence, useless. Cell phones have the same type of security but can also be spoofed into giving up the keys to a hacker that knows how it's done. Just a personal note/fyi: Just because the government spends $1M on a device to snoop, it does not mean that the same thing can't be done by a better than average hacker for $1K. The $1M amount does not impress me, the $1K amount does. The Harris Sting-Ray 2 cost the local law enforcement about $35K ea and they get Homeland Defense Grant Money to purchase them to snoop on cell phones. But with a PC, software and a few pieces of $300 hardware, you can do the same thing and be more flexible about how you do it. Now we have unknown snoopers near Wall Street and around Washington DC and corporate HQ's and has been going on for many years. Now there are 10's of thousands of taxpayer paid devices out there and no log of the use of them to know they are not being used for political snooping purposes or personal monetary gain of the police officer who has access to one. Part of the reason for Apple and Google's new encryption for cell phones that is similar to SSL. ...mike/kb8jnm -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org From: Chuck Henderson <rpt2(a)chuck.midlandsnetworking.com> Date: Sun, November 23, 2014 9:49 am To: Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> Cc: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> I don't think it applies to this. The encryption is not being used to hide the content from the government. The government has full access to read the content. The only requirement is they must capture the session from the start and they must have access to a one million dollar device that I have had access to. I know that they have that. In this case the encryption is only to verify the communication is authentic and to prevent unauthorized persons, other than the government, from breaking into the system. At least, that is my story and I am sticking to it.Chuck On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Bryan Fields <bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: We can't do encryption over amateur radio, so when accessing it from my ham radio 3400 mhz network it's technically a rule violation. On November 16, 2014 11:54:10 AM EST, Jim Duuuude <telesistant(a)hotmail.com> wrote: No, why? > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:43:29 -0500 > From: Bryan(a)bryanfields.net > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org > > Is there a url I can use to access this that does not redirect to the SSL server? > > Thank you, > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > 727-214-2508 - Fax > http://bryanfields.net > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 http://bryanfields.net _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

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Re: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org
by Bryan Fields 23 Nov '14

23 Nov '14

We can't do encryption over amateur radio, so when accessing it from my ham radio 3400 mhz network it's technically a rule violation. On November 16, 2014 11:54:10 AM EST, Jim Duuuude <telesistant(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >No, why? > >> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:43:29 -0500 >> From: Bryan(a)bryanfields.net >> To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] non SSL access to allstarlink.org >> >> Is there a url I can use to access this that does not redirect to the >SSL server? >> >> Thank you, >> >> -- >> Bryan Fields >> >> 727-409-1194 - Voice >> 727-214-2508 - Fax >> http://bryanfields.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll >down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the >"Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email >confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message >to the list detailing the problem. > -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 http://bryanfields.net

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Frozen repeater
by Michael Lussier 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

I went up on the mountain Wednesday morning. The repeater was powered up as well as the BBB. No action from the repeater. Any thoughts on low power way to keep the BBB and the URI warm ? I can use 12vdc Sent from an iPhone 5 iOS 8 Mike.Lussier(a)gmail.com AE4ML(a)arrl.net AE4ML(a)amsat.org

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Passing DTMF
by k5tra 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Greg, The only way that I know of is to explicitly build functions with cop,48 for each DTMF command that you might want to send. When that function is called (via DTMF), the desired DTMF string will be heard. Tom / K5TRA

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Re: [App_rpt-users] DTMF pass
by KJ6KO 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

How about this...completely unmuting DTMF? Is that possible? I can disconnect from all links when running local commands, then mute it when done and reconnect. What do these do? ;propagate_dtmf = yes ; DTMF sent to system from link gets ; repeated onto main system output (optional) ;propagate_phonedtmf = yes ; DTMF sent to system from phone gets ; repeated into main system output and ; link outputs (optional) ;linktolink = yes ; disables forcing physical half-duplex ; operation of main repeater while ; still keeping half-duplex semantics ; (optional) ;inxlat = #456,#457,0123456789ABCD ; translate digit strings inbound, ; in this case intrepret #456 as star, ; #457 as pound, and pass all the other ; chars listed in arg3 (optional) ;outxlat = *7,*0,0123456789#ABCD ; translate digit string outbound, ; in this case *7 generates star, *0 ; generates pound, and all the other ; digits pass along----- Original Message ----- From: k5tra To: 'KJ6KO' Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 12:57 AM Subject: RE: DTMF pass 'Don't know off the top. It would have to be in Allstar. It is possible to have preset DTMF strings be sent. Tom From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:19 PM To: tom Subject: DTMF pass Is there a setting on a URI in full duplex mode that will allow it to pass DTMF locally but not through the internet? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10756 (20141120) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10761 (20141121) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10761 (20141121) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 44
by J Roden 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Wow, I need to do some trimming next time (this time)!! tnx Mike >

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 43
by J Roden 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Greg, probably not what you want to hear, but my solution was to use a simple 2 port controller, such as the NHRC4 and tie the AllStar node on the link port. As always , one needs to manage their control codes for unintended commands. tnx Mike > On Nov 21, 2014, at 12:00 PM, app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org wrote: > > Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to > app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > app_rpt-users-owner(a)ohnosec.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frozen repeater (Michael Lussier) > 2. Re: Frozen repeater (mike(a)midnighteng.com) > 3. Re: Frozen repeater (pete M) > 4. Re: Frozen repeater (David McGough) > 5. Passing DTMF (KJ6KO) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:22:21 -0500 > From: Michael Lussier <mike.lussier(a)gmail.com> > To: "app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org" <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> > Subject: [App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater > Message-ID: <1E48F314-8548-46CF-99A7-61C7942F03C2(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > I went up on the mountain Wednesday morning. The repeater was powered up as well as the BBB. No action from the repeater. > Any thoughts on low power way to keep the BBB and the URI warm ? I can use 12vdc > > Sent from an iPhone 5 iOS 8 > > Mike.Lussier(a)gmail.com > AE4ML(a)arrl.net > AE4ML(a)amsat.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:52:00 -0700 > From: <mike(a)midnighteng.com> > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater > Message-ID: > <20141120155200.71befee5dbd13c5325dd1a521b4e73ee.e613fb8f9c.wbe(a)email06.secureserver.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/attachments/20141120/ba20f285/at…> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:38:12 -0500 > From: pete M <petem001(a)hotmail.com> > To: Michael Lussier <mike.lussier(a)gmail.com>, APP RPT > <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater > Message-ID: <BAY176-W158BE79DBD7F76566A720797760(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, it all depend how much power you got.. are you on solar power or wind turbine? or on line power? > there is a nice type of housing that you could use for your BBB and URI > Outdoor camera housing can be bough on ebay for 20$. it will protect the BBB and URI from hot and cold temp and the even have place to run the wire in and out of the housing.. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-outdoor-Housing-Bracket-with-Heater-Fan-fo… > something like that would do a good job.. > this will make a ccd camera run all winter long outside.. > And this will even prevent humidity to it the box > >> From: mike.lussier(a)gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:22:21 -0500 >> To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> Subject: [App_rpt-users] Frozen repeater >> >> >> I went up on the mountain Wednesday morning. The repeater was powered up as well as the BBB. No action from the repeater. >> Any thoughts on low power way to keep the BBB and the URI warm ? I can use 12vdc >> >> Sent from an iPhone 5 iOS 8 >> >> Mike.Lussier(a)gmail.com >> AE4ML(a)arrl.net >> AE4ML(a)amsat.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >> >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > >

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Passing DTMF
by KJ6KO 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Is it possible to pass all DTMF locally and not have them pass to or from the network? Using URI, simpleusb and duplex=2 ? This is a Link HUB repeater that ties 6 other 900 repeaters together via RF. Thanks... Greg KJ6KO www.nc9rs.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10761 (20141121) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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