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Re: [App_rpt-users] DMK uri FT8900 help
by ea8ee 01 Jul '12

01 Jul '12

the email ke6pcv from website uricable refused the order 2012/6/27 Eric Harrison <n7jys(a)yahoo.com> > That being the case you can still use the dsp to detect ctcss. Providing > your audio coming from the 8900 will pass ctcss. > > Eric > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ------------------------------ > * From: * ea8ee <ea8ee1(a)gmail.com>; > * To: * Matt Beasant <g4rky(a)yahoo.co.uk>; > * Cc: * <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org>; > * Subject: * Re: [App_rpt-users] DMK uri FT8900 help > * Sent: * Wed, Jun 27, 2012 1:49:57 PM > > I Ordered the cable to ke6pcv but the answer arrived with this email is > not registered > > 2012/6/26 Matt Beasant <g4rky(a)yahoo.co.uk> > >> I seem to remember using my 8900 for a link once and found that the COS >> output was exactly that, simply an output from the carrier squelch. >> >> What I am saying is that the COS output is not subject to CTCSS, so even >> if the tone decoder in the 8900 is set up for decode, the COS line still >> just follows the carrier squelch. >> >> Matt >> G4RKY >> Currently in Alcaniz! >> >> >> On 24 June 2012 16:04, (KP4TR)Ramon Gonzalez <kp4tr.ramon(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> The wiring is same as Kenwood TM-D700 and Icom IC880H (i have used both >>> radios with same cable wiring as Yaesu 8800) >>> >>> Go to page 10: >>> http://www.yaesu.com/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=754&FileCatID=150&FileName=FT%… >>> >>> If using URI FOB and COS from radio, use carrierfrom=usb >>> >>> Make your own cable, or order at http://uricables.com/Yaesu-FT8800R.html >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/2012 5:08 AM, ea8ee wrote: >>> >>> Any info about the wiring to minidin 6pind yaesu ? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users@ohnosec.orghttp://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> >> >

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IC Node
by Jim W7RY 30 Jun '12

30 Jun '12

Does anyone remember who was selling the “IC NODE” ? It was an IRLP box that I want to convert to a Allstar node. I cant seem to find the persons name or call. He was in the mid-west somewhere. Thanks! 73 Jim W7RY

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For Thunderbolt GPS users
by Don Russell 29 Jun '12

29 Jun '12

http://www.ke5fx.com/heather/readme.htm New version of Lady Heather is out. That is a nice monitoring/control program for them. -- Don Russell, CBRE CBNT W9DRR - ARRL OES, Technical Specialist http://www.socialengineer.us

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Audio?
by Alan Adamson 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Yeah, Mark to the rescue. My audio problem is solved. There was a nodeemp parameter that I missed on the voter.conf configuration. This means that NXDN digital is up and functional on Allstar via an RTCM :). bet I sound pretty funky too in my best synthesized voice :). If you want to hear it. Node 28656 is setting here on my floor, no duplexer and hooked to a dummy load and my service monitor :). I'll be playing with a Beaglebone and carrying an HT so I can listen to the system for a while. I'll leave that node down off my normal hookup so it's just an island. I can hook it to my remote base if you want to hear A vs. B. Levels were set with analog, so no promises of what they might be on digital, but I suspect they will be very close. Alan From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Alan Adamson Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:47 PM To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] Repeater Audio? isn't exactly Allstar related, but sorta. I've got a challenge that I'm not sure how to resolve. I think I've said this prior. I've successfully glued an RTCM to a New Icom NXDN repeater. This repeater is running in mixed analog mode and the Allstar is gated to analog only. There is no external controller running other than the RTCM. The internal controller functions when there is a digital signal and that doesn't come across allstar. For now that's an issue I'm willing to accept on that repeater. By using the Disc Out and the Mod in, this setup sounds *awesome*, I'm just blown away at how good it all sounds end to end. I'm about to head down this path on a second repeater, but this one I want to bring up as either Digital only or mixed digital. The controller has the above mentioned Disc out, but that only works with an analog signal. To get *transcoded * audio out, you have to use a pin called AF OUT, it's fixed level, but it's not discriminator, at best it sounds like speaker level. This is the only way to get an intelligent audio signal to feed to allstar when running in digital mode, there is no equivalent of discriminator out when in digital mode. Because I'm using an RTCM, I also can't *process the audio* or at least it's not obvious. And putting that audio back out into the network, it sounds really bad. it's too bassy, and muddy, basically it's de-emphasized and it really needs to be pre-emphasized. Is there any way with an RTCM to tell anything that I've got de-emphasized audio and to help it out? (it really needs some form of low pass put on it and the mid/high frequencies boosted). Also for note, I'm running my RTCM in conventional mode, not voter mode. and I have a CTCSS gate that is valid with COR *AND* CTCSS (in digital in NXDN they call that RAN codes). So I either need to filter between the radio and the RTCM or in the Allstar code if possible. BTW, I really have the same problem coming the other way, FM audio coming from Allstar and being then digitized to NXDN digital (AMBE+2 for those that want to know) *can* sound *really* good, but can also sound really crappy. If the person on the talking end is mumbling, or has a very deep voice, it doesn't sound worth crap, if on the other hand the person has a bright voice and talks clearly, it sounds amazing. This has nothing to do with the *emphasis* of this audio, it's FLAT going into the discriminator, the radio from there handles the transcoding. So, as a start, I'm looking for a relatively easy (and cheap) way to take speaker quality audio from the repeater and put it out *improved* on allstar with a RTCM. Note, with a URI, I could do that, but I don't seem to know how if possible with the RTCM/Voter/Rpt.conf stuff. Anyone faced a similar challenge and found an acceptable approach? I thought about trying one of the CAT audio boards, or maybe building a 3 or 5 band graphic equalizer, but I can't be the only person who's had this issue and solved it? Thanks in advance, and let me know your thoughts. ps. I'm happy to give anyone a demo, just let me know and I'll reconfigure my repeater for digital and show you. I'm testing some analog stuff at the moment, and the new repeater is setting on my floor currently. Alan

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Audio delay
by Ron Simpson 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Hey guys, Have been running my nodes for several months now. Several users complain to me that my aux receiver node audio is delayed and an echo is heard when you try to listen to the repeater output when using the aux receiver node. The aux receiver node is co-located with the server. I am running a quad PCI card in my server. My system consist of a full duplex UHF link on node 27936, my aux receiver is on 147.6900 mhz, 27937. Node 27937 is a receive only link to node 27936. Node 27936 is setup as a mode "0" simplex link running full duplex. (No repeat audio). Is there a buffer setting I can change to reduce that delay time? Any help would be appreciated Thanks!! Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Dialing from RF to SIP/IAX CLIENT..
by Bradley Haney 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Would anyone know how to intergate this if you already use the allstarlink autopatch? OUr club is using the alltarlink autopatch for 5.00 a month and we would like to add a few SIP/IAX extensions so the Rf users coudl dial out on autopatch and then also dial the extension numbers. Is it possible to have both or would i have to get rid of the allstarlink autopatch? Or is there an easy way to configure it so if you wanted to dial out on the autopatch you have to do a *6 for autopatch and then lets say 9 for an outside line? Bradley On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Monty Dana <ke7jvx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is what I used from Keith KF7DRV: > > http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2010-February/000787.html > > Monty > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Bradley Haney <kc9gqr(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello all.. looked up the great info on getting a iax client working >> on our repeater.. I can dial our node number now from a IAX client on >> my phone and use *99 to tx and # to stop Tx and listen.. Now I >> would like to be able to "Call" my phone from the repeater. We are >> currently using allstarlink's Autopatch also.. so would i just dial >> *6 and then the extension number i created? >> or would i have to do more work in the extensions.conf dept. >> >> Thanks for all the help in advance.. >> >> Bradley >> _______________________________________________ >> App_rpt-users mailing list >> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >

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DMK uri FT8900 help
by ea8ee 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Any info about the wiring to minidin 6pind yaesu ?

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Repeater Audio?
by Alan Adamson 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

isn't exactly Allstar related, but sorta. I've got a challenge that I'm not sure how to resolve. I think I've said this prior. I've successfully glued an RTCM to a New Icom NXDN repeater. This repeater is running in mixed analog mode and the Allstar is gated to analog only. There is no external controller running other than the RTCM. The internal controller functions when there is a digital signal and that doesn't come across allstar. For now that's an issue I'm willing to accept on that repeater. By using the Disc Out and the Mod in, this setup sounds *awesome*, I'm just blown away at how good it all sounds end to end. I'm about to head down this path on a second repeater, but this one I want to bring up as either Digital only or mixed digital. The controller has the above mentioned Disc out, but that only works with an analog signal. To get *transcoded * audio out, you have to use a pin called AF OUT, it's fixed level, but it's not discriminator, at best it sounds like speaker level. This is the only way to get an intelligent audio signal to feed to allstar when running in digital mode, there is no equivalent of discriminator out when in digital mode. Because I'm using an RTCM, I also can't *process the audio* or at least it's not obvious. And putting that audio back out into the network, it sounds really bad. it's too bassy, and muddy, basically it's de-emphasized and it really needs to be pre-emphasized. Is there any way with an RTCM to tell anything that I've got de-emphasized audio and to help it out? (it really needs some form of low pass put on it and the mid/high frequencies boosted). Also for note, I'm running my RTCM in conventional mode, not voter mode. and I have a CTCSS gate that is valid with COR *AND* CTCSS (in digital in NXDN they call that RAN codes). So I either need to filter between the radio and the RTCM or in the Allstar code if possible. BTW, I really have the same problem coming the other way, FM audio coming from Allstar and being then digitized to NXDN digital (AMBE+2 for those that want to know) *can* sound *really* good, but can also sound really crappy. If the person on the talking end is mumbling, or has a very deep voice, it doesn't sound worth crap, if on the other hand the person has a bright voice and talks clearly, it sounds amazing. This has nothing to do with the *emphasis* of this audio, it's FLAT going into the discriminator, the radio from there handles the transcoding. So, as a start, I'm looking for a relatively easy (and cheap) way to take speaker quality audio from the repeater and put it out *improved* on allstar with a RTCM. Note, with a URI, I could do that, but I don't seem to know how if possible with the RTCM/Voter/Rpt.conf stuff. Anyone faced a similar challenge and found an acceptable approach? I thought about trying one of the CAT audio boards, or maybe building a 3 or 5 band graphic equalizer, but I can't be the only person who's had this issue and solved it? Thanks in advance, and let me know your thoughts. ps. I'm happy to give anyone a demo, just let me know and I'll reconfigure my repeater for digital and show you. I'm testing some analog stuff at the moment, and the new repeater is setting on my floor currently. Alan

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RTCM Question
by Alan Adamson 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Anyone else noticed this? Maybe my user radio is just a fast switcher. I use and RTCM in conventional mode at my repeater to be the interface for it and Allstar. If I don't remember to keep the PTT held for about a second after I finish talking, as soon as I release the PTT, I get about 1 second (it's actually a smidge shorter than that) of the last few things I said on the air. I'm pretty sure this *repeat* is because of the approx 1 second delay that the RTCM instills in the system. It's about 400ms of startup delay, and about the same of system delays, so the live release of the PTT sees approx 800ms of delayed audio. If I remember to keep the PTT pressed for approx 1 second when I finish talking I don't see this. I'm using a commercial radio, so maybe I'll need to see about a programmed setting to do that for me automagically. Just wondering if others are seeing it as well or if I just have a fast switcher. Alan

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Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Question
by Alan Adamson 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Thanks Ken, I suspect that with the RTCM and the 2 buffers that need to be filled, I'm not sure this can be resolved so easily. It's talked about in the manual, and you wouldn't think you wouldn't notice a second of delay (finger being that quick to unkey - now key, sheesh, I think there is lightning responsiveness there :)), but it bites me every time. it's just become my "oh the allstar is functioning" detector, then I get the CT :). Alan From: Ken [mailto:ke2n@cs.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:26 AM To: 'Alan Adamson'; app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Question I have seen this kind of thing between servers at the same location - without an RTCM - when something was causing some latency issues on my LAN. in iax.conf I found the default resyncthreshold= was 1000 ms so I reduced it. I have since fixed the problem with the LAN, but still run resyncthreshold at 300 ms to avoid ever building up a lot of delay in the system. 73 Ken From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Alan Adamson Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:55 AM To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Subject: [App_rpt-users] RTCM Question Anyone else noticed this? Maybe my user radio is just a fast switcher. I use and RTCM in conventional mode at my repeater to be the interface for it and Allstar. If I don't remember to keep the PTT held for about a second after I finish talking, as soon as I release the PTT, I get about 1 second (it's actually a smidge shorter than that) of the last few things I said on the air. I'm pretty sure this *repeat* is because of the approx 1 second delay that the RTCM instills in the system. It's about 400ms of startup delay, and about the same of system delays, so the live release of the PTT sees approx 800ms of delayed audio. If I remember to keep the PTT pressed for approx 1 second when I finish talking I don't see this. I'm using a commercial radio, so maybe I'll need to see about a programmed setting to do that for me automagically. Just wondering if others are seeing it as well or if I just have a fast switcher. Alan

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