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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 48
by R Dahl 23 Jun '16

23 Jun '16

Im curious why you didn't use two URIx's which can address the gm300 programmable channel steering lines directly with user functions to control all 40 channels. (no buffering required) Works good. I can tell you had lots of fun though and saved the price of the URIx's. Ross ve6ars > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 40 channel remote base GM300! (Skyler Fennell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:03:23 -0600 > From: Skyler Fennell <electricity440(a)gmail.com> > To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org > Subject: [App_rpt-users] 40 channel remote base GM300! > Message-ID: <D29FAAB5-42CC-4276-A3E7-F4616CA72D09(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I managed to steer to any of the 40 GM300 channels with AllStar link and > custom scripts. I am going to deploy this 40 channel VHF remote and a 20 > channel UHF on a mountaintop with a wireless internet service provider. > > Binary select only lets me get to 16 channels, so my method controls the > front panel directly. > > It's been a pretty fun project, but it has been a pain messing with the > event handler in Allstar to get everything to work properly. Due to > limitations, I had to set up the base as a standard node and write > customizations for user log in to enable the transmitter. > > Here is the video > > https://youtu.be/ZY9pfy5F4hw > > 73 > Skyler KD?WHB >

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DIAL Distro for Beagle xM
by vk6mt＠hamradio.org.au 22 Jun '16

22 Jun '16

Hi My Beagle xM has been running 24/7 so no problem, but I would like to know if there is any work being done on a new DIAL version to replace the Pickle (now obsolete) for the xM? If someone can provide an update, please. Thanks to all. Mal VK6MT

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Fan control?
by Stephen - K1LNX 21 Jun '16

21 Jun '16

Hi guys, I'm running a pair of UHF CDM1550's in full duplex with one of the new Repeater Builder Rim "lite" RM interfaces: http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/usb-rim-lite.html It does not look like I can tap the GPIO's very easily on these boards, nor can I tell if GPIO 5-8 is available for general use looking at the schematic: http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/pdfs/RB_RIM_Max.pdf What I'd like to do is drive a relay board to switch a fan on if the receiver is active or there is traffic coming in to the node, being connected to another station or hub for example. I read over the GPIO and event management subsystem documentation, and it looks like that's what I need, but I don't have a parallel port nor can I tap the GPIO's on my interface easily (or even know if they can be used as per the above). Looking for ideas here if anyone else has encountered this, would prefer the logic/relay board approach vs. say a temperature controlled switch on the heatsink or something. 73 Stephen K1LNX

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Courtesy Tone with nolocallinkct=1 (bug?)
by Bryan Fields 21 Jun '16

21 Jun '16

On 6/20/16 8:17 PM, Sam Nabkey wrote: > My idea would be to have a list of nodes that would NOT be treated as > remotes. No matter where they are in the world. > > Maybe in a trusted node stanza.. > > Like this: > > [treataslocal] > 27542 > 41001 > 40320 > 575 > etc > > then any node in the list would be considered local. > > that would be an awesome thing How about some logic that lets us set the link CT on a per node basis? I'm just interested in why this does not work, or if the docs are wrong here. While we're on this, wtf is the Jacobsen Frog Corollary? Thanks, -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net

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Allmon2 Giving login Failed
by Tower DIVA 20 Jun '16

20 Jun '16

I have gone through every thing that I can think of, (allmon.ini.php and manager.conf) confirmed that there is exactly the same password, sand also did the htpassswd file. Still am unable to log into allmon2 on the GUI. I am up for ideas. Help? Keri KB0YNA

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Courtesy Tone with nolocallinkct=1 (bug?)
by Bryan Fields 20 Jun '16

20 Jun '16

I am going to reference http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/96 for this question. I have 3 nodes configured on a server, 2 via pciradio and 1 with a voter, all permalinked. This is using the DIAL distro. I want the local nodes CT to be the same no matter the node keyed, i.e. local nodes should not count as remote for the purposes of the CT, and if node 1 one keys up, node 2 and 3 will have the same tone that node 1 does. This is the config for each node: nounkeyct=0 unlinkedct=ct91 remotect=ct3 linkunkeyct=ct8 nolocallinkct=1 Based on this, when no external nodes are connected, any node keying up any other node or locally should use ct91. As of now this does not work. ct91 only plays on the keyed node, the other local nodes do not have a tone. When a remote node links in, the local CT changes to ct3, but still doesn't play from the other local nodes. Looking at app_rpt.c, > if (myrpt->p.nolocallinkct) /* if no CT if this guy is on local system */ > { > int v,w; > w = 0; > for(v = 0; v < nrpts; v++) > { > if (&rpt_vars[v] == myrpt) continue; > if (rpt_vars[v].remote) continue; > if (strcmp(rpt_vars[v].name, > mytele->mylink.name)) continue; > w = 1; > break; > } > if (w) > { > imdone = 1; > break; > } > } This looks like if nolocallinkct=1 it just does not play a CT and breaks out of the loop. I'm thinking this is wrong based on the docs? maybe it needs goto treataslocal; before the break? I've not tried it yet, but it would appear it needs to be treated as a local node CT? Also is there any way to play a CT with the asterisk cli for testing? I can't find it if there is. Thoughts? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 88, Issue 41
by Neil Addis 17 Jun '16

17 Jun '16

Loren, You can't have a ct8 and a ct88. As soon as it gets the first 8 it will ignore the second 8 so change all to double digit and that should fix it.... Neil W7FED Seattle, WA Node 27087 (and others). Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request(a)ohnosec.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner(a)ohnosec.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. How do i change courtesy tones on two separate repeaters same system.. (Loren Tedford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:11:47 -0500 From: Loren Tedford <lorentedford(a)gmail.com> To: app_rpt mailing list <app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org> Subject: [App_rpt-users] How do i change courtesy tones on two separate repeaters same system.. Message-ID: <CAK=eTyhjSd3OAOgpWZRSDLHx5J5juNTHCNwwsfLDMZ8BUxtFbQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I am not confused on the whole telemtry= stanza in rpt.conf I am trying to put the nextel beep on my 29925 repeater and the NASA beep on my 40875 repeater.. The confusing part is I thought I changed the telemtry stanza to their perspective locations with in the file.. Am i missing some thing??? Here is my rpt.conf ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) ; ; ; Your Repeater ; [29925] ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Radio/usb29925 duplex=2 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule29925 macro=macro startup_macro=*95341715 morse=morse29925 macro=macro29925 functions=functions29925 phone_functions=functions29925 link_functions=functions29925 telemetry=telemetry1 wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = /etc/asterisk/ids/kc9zhvrpt idrecording = |iKC9ZHV accountcode=RADIO hangtime=0 althangtime=10 totime=210000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV unlinkedct=ct88 remotect=ct88 linkunkeyct=ct88 ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 telemdefault=2 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse29925] speed=20 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule29925] ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied [functions29925] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ;989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro29925] 2= *81 [40875] ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Radio/usb40875 duplex=2 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule40875 macro=macro startup_macro=*95342650 morse=morse40875 macro=macro40875 functions=functions40875 phone_functions=functions40875 link_functions=functions40875 telemetry=telemetry2 wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = /etc/asterisk/ids/kc9zhvrpt idrecording = |iKC9ZHV/R accountcode=RADIO hangtime=10 althangtime=20 totime=210000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV/R unlinkedct=ct89 remotect=ct89 linkunkeyct=ct89 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 telemdefault=2 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse40875] speed=20 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule40875] ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied [functions40875] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ;989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro40875] ;[42447] ; Change this to your assigned node number ;rxchannel=Radio/usb42447 ;duplex=0 ;erxgain=-3 ;etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates ;scheduler=schedule42447 ;morse=morse42447 ;macro=macro42447 ;functions=functions42447 ;phone_functions=functions42447 ;link_functions=functions42447 ;telemetry=telemetry ;wait_times=wait-times ;context = radio ;callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> ;idrecording = |iKC9ZHV ;accountcode=RADIO ;hangtime=100 ;althangtime=100 ;totime=170000 ;idtime=540000 ;politeid=3000 ;idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV ;unlinkedct=ct2 ;remotect=ct3 ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 ;nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 ;beaconing=0 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** ;statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; ;[morse42447] ; ;speed=18 ;frequency=800 ;amplitude=4096 ;idfrequency=750 ;idamplitude=1024 ; ;[schedule42447] ;;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied ; ; ;[functions42447] ;1=ilink,1 ;2=ilink,2 ;3=ilink,3 ;4=ilink,4 ;5=macro,1 ;70=ilink,5 ;71=ilink,6 ;72=ilink,7 ;73=ilink,15 ;74=ilink,16 ;75=ilink,8 ; ;80=status,1 ;81=status,2 ; ;6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up ;0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ; ;;989=cop,4 ;980=status,3 ;99=cop,6 ; ; Place command macros here ; ;[macro42447] ; ; ; ;[telemetry] ;ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ;ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ;ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ;ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ;ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ;ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ;ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ;ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ;ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;patchup=rpt/callproceeding ;patchdown=rpt/callterminated [telemetry1] ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) patchup=rpt/callproceeding patchdown=rpt/callterminated [telemetry2] ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ;ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) patchup=rpt/callproceeding patchdown=rpt/callterminated ; ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater ; [wait-times] telemwait=2000 idwait=500 unkeywait=2000 calltermwait=2000 ; ; This is where you define your nodes which cam be connected to. ; [nodes] ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. 29925 = radio(a)192.168.1.86/29925,NONE 40875 = radio(a)192.168.1.86/40875,NONE ;29925 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/29925,NONE ;40875 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/40875,NONE 41715 = radio(a)192.99.13.90/41715,NONE ;42447 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/42447,NONE ; Memories for remote bases [memory] ;00 = 146.580,100.0,m ;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t ;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t ;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t ;04 = 146.460,100.0,m ;05 = 146.550,100.0,m #includeifexists custom/rpt.conf Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://www.newwavesucks.com http://forum.newwavesucks.com

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How do i change courtesy tones on two separate repeaters same system..
by Loren Tedford 16 Jun '16

16 Jun '16

I am not confused on the whole telemtry= stanza in rpt.conf I am trying to put the nextel beep on my 29925 repeater and the NASA beep on my 40875 repeater.. The confusing part is I thought I changed the telemtry stanza to their perspective locations with in the file.. Am i missing some thing??? Here is my rpt.conf ; Radio Repeater configuration file (for use with app_rpt) ; ; ; Your Repeater ; [29925] ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Radio/usb29925 duplex=2 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule29925 macro=macro startup_macro=*95341715 morse=morse29925 macro=macro29925 functions=functions29925 phone_functions=functions29925 link_functions=functions29925 telemetry=telemetry1 wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = /etc/asterisk/ids/kc9zhvrpt idrecording = |iKC9ZHV accountcode=RADIO hangtime=0 althangtime=10 totime=210000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV unlinkedct=ct88 remotect=ct88 linkunkeyct=ct88 ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 telemdefault=2 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse29925] speed=20 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule29925] ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied [functions29925] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ;989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro29925] 2= *81 [40875] ; Change this to your assigned node number rxchannel=Radio/usb40875 duplex=2 erxgain=-3 etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates scheduler=schedule40875 macro=macro startup_macro=*95342650 morse=morse40875 macro=macro40875 functions=functions40875 phone_functions=functions40875 link_functions=functions40875 telemetry=telemetry2 wait_times=wait-times context = radio callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> idrecording = /etc/asterisk/ids/kc9zhvrpt idrecording = |iKC9ZHV/R accountcode=RADIO hangtime=10 althangtime=20 totime=210000 idtime=540000 politeid=3000 idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV/R unlinkedct=ct89 remotect=ct89 linkunkeyct=ct89 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 beaconing=0 telemdefault=2 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; [morse40875] speed=20 frequency=800 amplitude=4096 idfrequency=750 idamplitude=1024 [schedule40875] ;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied [functions40875] 1=ilink,1 2=ilink,2 3=ilink,3 4=ilink,4 5=macro,1 70=ilink,5 71=ilink,6 72=ilink,7 73=ilink,15 74=ilink,16 75=ilink,8 80=status,1 81=status,2 6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up 0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ;989=cop,4 980=status,3 99=cop,6 ; Place command macros here [macro40875] ;[42447] ; Change this to your assigned node number ;rxchannel=Radio/usb42447 ;duplex=0 ;erxgain=-3 ;etxgain=3 ;controlstates=controlstates ;scheduler=schedule42447 ;morse=morse42447 ;macro=macro42447 ;functions=functions42447 ;phone_functions=functions42447 ;link_functions=functions42447 ;telemetry=telemetry ;wait_times=wait-times ;context = radio ;callerid = "Repeater" <0000000000> ;idrecording = |iKC9ZHV ;accountcode=RADIO ;hangtime=100 ;althangtime=100 ;totime=170000 ;idtime=540000 ;politeid=3000 ;idtalkover=|iKC9ZHV ;unlinkedct=ct2 ;remotect=ct3 ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ;nolocallinkct=0 ;eannmode=1 ;connpgm=yourconnectprogram ;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram ;lnkactenable=0 ;lnkacttime=1800 ;lnkactmacro=*52 ;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds ;remote_inact_timeout=1800 ;remote_timeout=3600 ;nounkeyct=0 ;holdofftelem=0 ;beaconing=0 ; ; *** Status Reporting *** ; ; Uncomment the either group following two statpost lines to report the status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org ; depending on whether you are running ACID or Limey Linux. ; ** For ACID *** ;statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ** For Limey Linux ** ;statpost_program=/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null ;statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates ; ; ; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters. ; ;[morse42447] ; ;speed=18 ;frequency=800 ;amplitude=4096 ;idfrequency=750 ;idamplitude=1024 ; ;[schedule42447] ;;dtmf_function = m h dom mon dow ; ala cron, star is implied ; ; ;[functions42447] ;1=ilink,1 ;2=ilink,2 ;3=ilink,3 ;4=ilink,4 ;5=macro,1 ;70=ilink,5 ;71=ilink,6 ;72=ilink,7 ;73=ilink,15 ;74=ilink,16 ;75=ilink,8 ; ;80=status,1 ;81=status,2 ; ;6=autopatchup,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000 ; Autopatch up ;0=autopatchdn ; Autopatch down ; ;;989=cop,4 ;980=status,3 ;99=cop,6 ; ; Place command macros here ; ;[macro42447] ; ; ; ;[telemetry] ;ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ;ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ;ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ;ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ;ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ;ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ;ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ;ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ;ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;patchup=rpt/callproceeding ;patchdown=rpt/callterminated [telemetry1] ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) patchup=rpt/callproceeding patchdown=rpt/callterminated [telemetry2] ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048) ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048) ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048) ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048) ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048) ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048) ct8=|t(700,1100,150,2048) ;ct88=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ;NaSA beep ;ct89=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 remotetx=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 remotemon=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 cmdmode=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 functcomplete=|t(2175,0,200,2048)(1950,0,175,2048) ; TONE REMOTE NASA 1 ; ; Nextel tones setup ;remotetx=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;remotemon=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;cmdmode=|t(1760,0,30,1048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048)(0,0,30,0)(1760,0,30,2048) ; NEXTEL ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) ;Unknown settings below.. ;unlinkedct=ct1 ; local off-link tone ;remotect=ct3 ; remote base connected tone ;linkunkeyct=ct8 ; remote on-link tone ;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000); ;remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) ;cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048) ;functcomplete=|t(1000,0,100,2048)(0,0,100,0)(1000,0,100,2048) patchup=rpt/callproceeding patchdown=rpt/callterminated ; ; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted ; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater ; [wait-times] telemwait=2000 idwait=500 unkeywait=2000 calltermwait=2000 ; ; This is where you define your nodes which cam be connected to. ; [nodes] ; Note, if you are using automatic update for allstar link nodes, ; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition ; for your locak nodes, and private (off of allstar link) nodes here. 29925 = radio(a)192.168.1.86/29925,NONE 40875 = radio(a)192.168.1.86/40875,NONE ;29925 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/29925,NONE ;40875 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/40875,NONE 41715 = radio(a)192.99.13.90/41715,NONE ;42447 = radio(a)127.0.0.1/42447,NONE ; Memories for remote bases [memory] ;00 = 146.580,100.0,m ;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t ;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t ;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t ;04 = 146.460,100.0,m ;05 = 146.550,100.0,m #includeifexists custom/rpt.conf Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://www.newwavesucks.com http://forum.newwavesucks.com

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Apology
by Loren Tedford 16 Jun '16

16 Jun '16

I am sorry for my previous incorrect apparent incorrect statement about the nodesetup script.. Apparently for some reason yesterday after working with both systems I was unable to get the nodesetup script to work.. Today the scripts worked.. Not sure if it was network related or not.. However I can tell you from two seperate Internet Service providers I ran this script with failure along with a fresh install in a VM which later this afternoon was able to pull my config files.... Officially here is what works.. with the nodesetup script.. If your on a pure Dial installation this script should work if it doesn't make sure you check resolv.conf and /etc/network/intefaces to ensure that the settings appear to be correct.. I am not sure as to what caused my 12 hr frustration with downloading the proper config files yesterday while using Dial.. however today the script for some reason worked.. Ubuntu 14.04LTS nodesetup now no longer works no matter what.. What you have to do is download the scripts in dial then copy the /etc/asterisk/ folder into the Ubuntu machine in the same location.. Really easy plug and play.. I know I have hurt some feelings out their so I am sorry please forgive my earlier post.. About when will the script be working again.. thanks so much 73's Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com http://www.lorentedford.com http://www.kc9zhv.com http://forum.kc9zhv.com http://hub.kc9zhv.com http://www.newwavesucks.com http://forum.newwavesucks.com

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Re: [App_rpt-users] asterisk crashing in DIAL
by Steve Zingman 15 Jun '16

15 Jun '16

So, you could let Debian download the files you want and then copy them to Ubuntu. Or you could modify the script to work with Ubuntu. The error message is you pointer where to look. On 06/15/2016 06:47 PM, Loren Tedford wrote: > I figured ubuntu 14.04 Lts and debian where just about the same.. who > knew.. their was that much of a difference.. > > > > > Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) > Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com> > http://www.lorentedford.com <http://www.lorentedford.com/> > http://www.kc9zhv.com > http://forum.kc9zhv.com > http://hub.kc9zhv.com > http://www.newwavesucks.com > http://forum.newwavesucks.com > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Steve Zingman <szingman(a)msgstor.com > <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote: > > It's good to hear that the script works as intended, with Debian. > > On 06/15/2016 05:59 PM, Loren Tedford wrote: >> ok in debian it works at this moment must be some very slight >> differneces causing it not to download the files into the >> asterisk folder.. >> >> >> almost wish their was a seperate command just to download only >> those config files only.. >> >> >> >> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) >> Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com> >> http://www.lorentedford.com >> http://www.kc9zhv.com >> http://forum.kc9zhv.com >> http://hub.kc9zhv.com >> http://www.newwavesucks.com >> http://forum.newwavesucks.com >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Loren Tedford >> <lorentedford(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> ok.. I will install debian in a vm and see here in a moment.. >> >> >> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) >> Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com> >> http://www.lorentedford.com >> http://www.kc9zhv.com >> http://forum.kc9zhv.com >> http://hub.kc9zhv.com >> http://www.newwavesucks.com >> http://forum.newwavesucks.com >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Steve Zingman >> <szingman(a)msgstor.com <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote: >> >> So, >> I'm guessing you are having a problem with Ubuntu. That >> explains the question on the AllStar list " Just wanting >> to know when we will have the nodesetup script working >> again.." >> I think the script runs on Debian. If you are trying to >> use it on Ubuntu "your mileage may vary" >> >> >> >> On 06/15/2016 05:33 PM, Loren Tedford wrote: >>> this is the one i have been trying to use but it has >>> caused me lots of issues when i pull from allstarlink >>> servers.. >>> >>> https://github.com/N4IRS/AllStar/blob/master/platforms/x86/jessie/x86_allst… >>> >>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) >>> Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com> >>> http://www.lorentedford.com >>> http://www.kc9zhv.com >>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com >>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com >>> http://www.newwavesucks.com >>> http://forum.newwavesucks.com >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Zingman >>> <szingman(a)msgstor.com <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote: >>> >>> https://github.com/N4IRS/AllStar/ >>> >>> On Jun 15, 2016 5:27 PM, Loren Tedford >>> <lorentedford(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Steve could you send me a installation >>> script for x86 systems I need to reinstall on my >>> ubuntu machine and having issues.. >>> >>> >>> Loren Tedford (KC9ZHV) >>> Email: lorentedford(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:lorentedford@gmail.com> >>> http://www.lorentedford.com >>> http://www.kc9zhv.com >>> http://forum.kc9zhv.com >>> http://hub.kc9zhv.com >>> http://www.newwavesucks.com >>> http://forum.newwavesucks.com >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Steve Zingman >>> <szingman(a)msgstor.com >>> <mailto:szingman@msgstor.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I will be moving both asterisk and >>> updatenodelist to systemd. >>> See >>> <https://github.com/N4IRS/AllStar/tree/master/systemd> >>> >>> 73, Steve N4IRS >>> >>> On 06/15/2016 04:26 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: >>> >>> On 6/15/16 4:17 PM, Steve Zingman wrote: >>> >>> The new version of DIAL will support >>> systemd >>> >>> Can you share the script? I'll get it >>> installed here in the meantime. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Anything is possible if you don't know what >>> you are talking about." >>> 1st Law of Logic >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> App_rpt-users mailing list >>> App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org >>> <mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit >>> http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users >>> and scroll down to the bottom of the page. >>> Enter your email address and press the >>> "Unsubscribe or edit options button" >>> You do not need a password to unsubscribe, >>> you can do it via email confirmation. 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