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Re: [App_rpt-users] gtx900
by Pierre Martel 08 Jul '19

08 Jul '19

ok, I will have to find a receiver.. looks like all quantar on flybay right now are pricey... I would really like to find a suitable receiver in the mean time, till I have something else to put on site.

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Tailmessage Timer
by Darrell Black 07 Jul '19

07 Jul '19

Hi, kinda new into AllStar. I want to be able to change the tailmessage timer via a macro if needed. Any hints on how to do this? My tailmessages are set at 45 minutes but if I want to cancel a club meeting, or set a weather alert, I can script in a new tail message but I would want to shorten the timer to lets say every 5 minutes. I don't really want to rewrite the rtp.conf just overwrite the timer in memory until the reboot or until I change it back. Thanks -- Darrell Black (517) 917-2226 GigaHacker(a)gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/darrellblack 73 de W8DSB "In God we trust, all others we monitor" GMRS WRDE739

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gtx900
by Pierre Martel 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

Hello to the group, Got a pair of GTX900 mobile radio and got them tuned (mostly ok) to the ham band. I now want to use them for repeater use in the 900 mhz band. I went to repeater builder page and used all the info I could for the interfacing. I did went for flat audio connection, as stated on the gtx900 page I used pin 7 and 11 for the receiver audio out. And I did put the dip switch close to the interfacing jack to off as specified. I then tried to do a radio tune rxnoise but it always fail. I want to use the dsp fonction of usbradio as it is way easier then getting a cor output on the gtx900. Anyone ever used those radio with ASL? thanks VE2PF

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Re: [App_rpt-users] App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 125, Issue 2
by Len Griffin 04 Jul '19

04 Jul '19

My Personal Experience / Thoughts When I began learning Allstar and Linux, I became very confused. Looking for answers using my browser, I was constantly getting conflicting information. After some time, I became more aware that there were TWO separate AllStar systems in place, and they did NOT work the same? This severely delayed my initial progress, and continues to hinder, not help, new hams looking to learn. I am very angry that this is allowed to continue. How are we to learn if there are different answers to the same question? There MUST be ONE answer, and ONE AllStar. Thank you Jim Dixon for your incredible programming skill and OPENLY sharing it with us! Doug Crompton is obviously skilled as well, and has proven that. Doug, why not be proud of your accomplishment, comply with the LAW and share the source code? What seems to be the problem? We ALL lose by being divided. I'm late to this game, so I do not know what the history of this issue is. The LAW says the initial code is OPEN SOURCE, available to anyone. Out of RESPECT for Jim, WB6NIL, and his collaboration with Mark Spencer on developing Asterisk, along with his work with Steve Rodgers, WA6ZFT, developing app_rpt, I will ALWAYS use the OFFICIAL AllStar. -----Original Message----- From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of app_rpt-users-request(a)lists.allstarlink.org Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2019 8:00 AM To: app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org Subject: App_rpt-users Digest, Vol 125, Issue 2 Send App_rpt-users mailing list submissions to app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to app_rpt-users-request(a)lists.allstarlink.org You can reach the person managing the list at app_rpt-users-owner(a)lists.allstarlink.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of App_rpt-users digest..." This site is dedicated to the memory of Jim Dixon WB6NIL Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Bryan Fields) 2. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Brad Trogdon) 3. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Skyler F) 4. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Donald Jacob) 5. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (ARS W5OMR) 6. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (cnovey(a)gmail.com) 7. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Brian G) 8. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Willem Schreuder) 9. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Kirk Just Kirk) 10. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Joe Leikhim) 11. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Kirk Just Kirk) 12. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Matthew Simmons) 13. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Pierre Martel) 14. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (David McGough) 15. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Pierre Martel) 16. Re: Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough (Andrew Sylthe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:06:44 -0400 From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough Message-ID: <99ccdd2e-7e2c-371a-395f-bc937f41f5c0(a)bryanfields.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 7/2/19 8:45 PM, Brad Trogdon wrote: >>> Not sure of your beef but from a users perspective having tried both >>> AllStar and HamVoIP groups and offerings I have to say hands down the >>> HamVoIP group contributes significantly more to the communities in the >> form >>> of product, updates and support. Post the source. Without it, _nothing_ else is legal or matters. The better question; what does he have to hide? >> HamVoIP has contributed nothing to the AllStar community, but has stolen >> much >> from it. HamVoIP has _no_ right to distribute the AllStar code and is >> engaged >> in criminal copyright infringement against this community. This is >> trampling >> on the rights of every user and developer here; it's beyond reprehensible. >> > > Please define AllStar community. Being a user of the HamVoIP distribution I > feel I am a member of the community but with an updated and feature rich > version. To define stolen that means one would be deprived of use which I > don?t see occurring. AllStar/asterisk/linux/et al. is Free Software licensed under the GPL version 2. You're free to use it, but if you give copies of it to anyone, you must give them the same rights you have. If you don't you have no right to it. John David has failed to distribute his software in accordance with the license, and has failed to cure this. He has no right to distribute it, and people with copies of his software have been given copies illegally. > How are developers and users being negatively impacted? I see nothing but > users and developers benefiting. He's taken away any ability to view the source, and make changes to the code. This is the core value of Free Software and why Jim developed this. >> Do you condone this? > > From my viewpoint as a user of well maintained and feature rich software, > yes. I don?t see anyone being deprived. Produce the source, it's a legal requirement. I'd love to audit his code in something more than a disassembler. > I appreciate their hard work and > constant support to where I personally have donated when given the > opportunity. All they have done is remove the by line and slap their own on name. Is this hard? Certainly not. Are you saying in a public forum you have paid him for HamVoIP? > Their are more than Amateur usage of this tool. GMRS for example how would > that group be shamed? Their are individuals whom use this for personal and > private networks in the Amateur community. Is this not in the spirit of > the applications creator? It's totally in the spirit of the freedom Jim intended, however this requires the source code to be open and any changes are covered by the same license. If Jim wanted it to be closed source, he'd have released it BSD licensed. I won't speak for his thoughts, but would think some of the first work he did on the Tormenta card showed why BSD isn't the ideal license for collaboration. >> I would work on fixing the problem Proactively and not flame others who >> are >>> providing a service to the community at large. >> >> What service is he providing? What is he contributing if he's unable to >> abide >> by the basic tenets of the community? > > I believe I have answered the question of service and contributions. He's not contributed anything, rather he's dividing the community and has support from people too stupid to see how he's fucking them over. It's sad. > The HamVoIP provides tons of how-tos and white-papers. When you refer to > the ?Community? are you referring to a small group that could be compared > to a HOA? I know this may be hard for you to understand, but the community is based on freely sharing ideas and improvements. At the center of this is the GPL and it dictates the minimum requirements of this community. HamVoIP has turned their noses up at it, and refused to play by the community rules. You've had your freedom ripped from you and you don't care; rather your cheering it. What is _wrong_ with you? > Again from my perspective they are providing assistance, support > and product to a global community and are being picked on by a group of > disgruntled HOA members. I as a user have the option to choose. You chose to further a felonious enterprise run by a conman. What more can I say, he's amateur radio's Darl McBride sans the magic underwear. > Not sure if you saw my follow-up post previously but your dashboard was > reporting a component of AllStar was offline (Down) Your unable to ping it? Well holy shit, one ping died in the ether from your computer. I'm done with you. Go be a pirate and enjoy suckling at John's teet. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 12:15:20 -0400 From: Brad Trogdon <Brad(a)trogdon.org> To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough Message-ID: <CAKAuT6aFetpNi9LCyFYW0pnLwMg8QJmYK1L+e7=BhvHsh=07Zg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Source - legal - or matters?? You forgot to detail what brings us to this thread. ?Works!! ? You are obviously a very bitter and sad person. I can understand why their is a max exodus to a friendly, supportive and reliable version. Thank you for your time and reinforcing any doubts that I may have chosen the correct flavor to proceed with. To be clear I have not paid anyone for software. I have however donated to show my support for their efforts as I do with fellow repeater owners and groups whom provide services to which I partake. If the individual you are pursuing has single handedly contributed the volumes he has you should concede and follow his lead. He has obviously surpassed your ability. With your passion and his get-it-done could one only imagine what would be possible in a true collaborative arena? Not that little oh me matters but you should concentrate on your version and what you want it to be. Provide support and most importantly a consumer friendly solution and I promise folks will use it. But to stomp you feet and yell will do nothing but form unfavorable opinions and run folks off. To end this thread I want to say thank you to everyone that has helped me along the way. Before this I knew zero Linux. This is a hobby and a learning experience to me. Off to the teet. With the elections soon approaching I feel our paths will cross again. Cya L8r Bye. ... On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:06 AM Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote: > On 7/2/19 8:45 PM, Brad Trogdon wrote: > > >>> Not sure of your beef but from a users perspective having tried both > >>> AllStar and HamVoIP groups and offerings I have to say hands down the > >>> HamVoIP group contributes significantly more to the communities in the > >> form > >>> of product, updates and support. > > Post the source. Without it, _nothing_ else is legal or matters. > > The better question; what does he have to hide? > > >> HamVoIP has contributed nothing to the AllStar community, but has stolen > >> much > >> from it. HamVoIP has _no_ right to distribute the AllStar code and is > >> engaged > >> in criminal copyright infringement against this community. This is > >> trampling > >> on the rights of every user and developer here; it's beyond > reprehensible. > >> > > > > Please define AllStar community. Being a user of the HamVoIP > distribution I > > feel I am a member of the community but with an updated and feature rich > > version. To define stolen that means one would be deprived of use which > I > > don?t see occurring. > > AllStar/asterisk/linux/et al. is Free Software licensed under the GPL > version > 2. You're free to use it, but if you give copies of it to anyone, you must > give them the same rights you have. If you don't you have no right to it. > > John David has failed to distribute his software in accordance with the > license, and has failed to cure this. He has no right to distribute it, > and > people with copies of his software have been given copies illegally. > > > How are developers and users being negatively impacted? I see nothing > but > > users and developers benefiting. > > He's taken away any ability to view the source, and make changes to the > code. > This is the core value of Free Software and why Jim developed this. > > >> Do you condone this? > > > > From my viewpoint as a user of well maintained and feature rich software, > > yes. I don?t see anyone being deprived. > > Produce the source, it's a legal requirement. I'd love to audit his code > in > something more than a disassembler. > > > I appreciate their hard work and > > constant support to where I personally have donated when given the > > opportunity. > > All they have done is remove the by line and slap their own on name. Is > this > hard? Certainly not. > > Are you saying in a public forum you have paid him for HamVoIP? > > > Their are more than Amateur usage of this tool. GMRS for example how > would > > that group be shamed? Their are individuals whom use this for personal > and > > private networks in the Amateur community. Is this not in the spirit of > > the applications creator? > > It's totally in the spirit of the freedom Jim intended, however this > requires > the source code to be open and any changes are covered by the same license. > If Jim wanted it to be closed source, he'd have released it BSD licensed. > I > won't speak for his thoughts, but would think some of the first work he > did on > the Tormenta card showed why BSD isn't the ideal license for collaboration. > > >> I would work on fixing the problem Proactively and not flame others who > >> are > >>> providing a service to the community at large. > >> > >> What service is he providing? What is he contributing if he's unable to > >> abide > >> by the basic tenets of the community? > > > > I believe I have answered the question of service and contributions. > > He's not contributed anything, rather he's dividing the community and has > support from people too stupid to see how he's fucking them over. It's > sad. > > > The HamVoIP provides tons of how-tos and white-papers. When you refer to > > the ?Community? are you referring to a small group that could be compared > > to a HOA? > > I know this may be hard for you to understand, but the community is based > on > freely sharing ideas and improvements. At the center of this is the GPL > and > it dictates the minimum requirements of this community. HamVoIP has turned > their noses up at it, and refused to play by the community rules. > > You've had your freedom ripped from you and you don't care; rather your > cheering it. What is _wrong_ with you? > > > Again from my perspective they are providing assistance, support > > and product to a global community and are being picked on by a group of > > disgruntled HOA members. I as a user have the option to choose. > > You chose to further a felonious enterprise run by a conman. What more > can I > say, he's amateur radio's Darl McBride sans the magic underwear. > > > Not sure if you saw my follow-up post previously but your dashboard was > > reporting a component of AllStar was offline (Down) > > Your unable to ping it? Well holy shit, one ping died in the ether from > your > computer. > > I'm done with you. Go be a pirate and enjoy suckling at John's teet. > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voice > http://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit > http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and > scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press > the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email > confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to > the list detailing the problem. >

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough
by Skyler F 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

I feel like many people on this list don’t understand the relevance of source code and why the HamVoip image has done anything wrong because many are just end users, and on the outside it is free and has great support. Why does the source matter? The core foundation of amateur radio is based on the ability to experiment and modify things to make it better. Without the source, the hamvoip image is something that we can only be a user of, and cannot make improvement for ourselves. If we have custom ideas. Think about a radio that physically will not let you put your soldering iron and multimeter in it without self destructing. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:09 AM Jeremy Lincicome <w0jrl1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is crazy! I've never seen > > Bryan Fields so angry! > Yes... I agree with him. > > Jeremy > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 08:06:44 -0400 > From: Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> > Reply-To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> > <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> > To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> > <app_rpt-users(a)lists.allstarlink.org> > > > On 7/2/19 8:45 PM, Brad Trogdon wrote: > > Not sure of your beef but from a users perspective having tried both > AllStar and HamVoIP groups and offerings I have to say hands down the > HamVoIP group contributes significantly more to the communities in the > > form > > of product, updates and support. > > > Post the source. Without it, _nothing_ else is legal or matters. > > The better question; what does he have to hide? > > HamVoIP has contributed nothing to the AllStar community, but has stolen > much > from it. HamVoIP has _no_ right to distribute the AllStar code and is > engaged > in criminal copyright infringement against this community. This is > trampling > on the rights of every user and developer here; it's beyond reprehensible. > > > Please define AllStar community. Being a user of the HamVoIP distribution I > feel I am a member of the community but with an updated and feature rich > version. To define stolen that means one would be deprived of use which I > don’t see occurring. > > > AllStar/asterisk/linux/et al. is Free Software licensed under the GPL > version > 2. You're free to use it, but if you give copies of it to anyone, you must > give them the same rights you have. If you don't you have no right to it. > > John David has failed to distribute his software in accordance with the > license, and has failed to cure this. He has no right to distribute it, and > people with copies of his software have been given copies illegally. > > How are developers and users being negatively impacted? I see nothing but > users and developers benefiting. > > > He's taken away any ability to view the source, and make changes to the > code. > This is the core value of Free Software and why Jim developed this. > > Do you condone this? > > > From my viewpoint as a user of well maintained and feature rich software, > yes. I don’t see anyone being deprived. > > > Produce the source, it's a legal requirement. I'd love to audit his code in > something more than a disassembler. > > I appreciate their hard work and > constant support to where I personally have donated when given the > opportunity. > > > All they have done is remove the by line and slap their own on name. Is > this > hard? Certainly not. > > Are you saying in a public forum you have paid him for HamVoIP? > > Their are more than Amateur usage of this tool. GMRS for example how would > that group be shamed? Their are individuals whom use this for personal and > private networks in the Amateur community. Is this not in the spirit of > the applications creator? > > > It's totally in the spirit of the freedom Jim intended, however this > requires > the source code to be open and any changes are covered by the same license. > If Jim wanted it to be closed source, he'd have released it BSD licensed. I > won't speak for his thoughts, but would think some of the first work he > did on > the Tormenta card showed why BSD isn't the ideal license for collaboration. > > I would work on fixing the problem Proactively and not flame others who > are > > providing a service to the community at large. > > > What service is he providing? What is he contributing if he's unable to > abide > by the basic tenets of the community? > > > I believe I have answered the question of service and contributions. > > > He's not contributed anything, rather he's dividing the community and has > support from people too stupid to see how he's fucking them over. It's sad. > > The HamVoIP provides tons of how-tos and white-papers. When you refer to > the “Community” are you referring to a small group that could be compared > to a HOA? > > > I know this may be hard for you to understand, but the community is based > on > freely sharing ideas and improvements. At the center of this is the GPL and > it dictates the minimum requirements of this community. HamVoIP has turned > their noses up at it, and refused to play by the community rules. > > You've had your freedom ripped from you and you don't care; rather your > cheering it. What is _wrong_ with you? > > Again from my perspective they are providing assistance, support > and product to a global community and are being picked on by a group of > disgruntled HOA members. I as a user have the option to choose. > > > You chose to further a felonious enterprise run by a conman. What more can > I > say, he's amateur radio's Darl McBride sans the magic underwear. > > Not sure if you saw my follow-up post previously but your dashboard was > reporting a component of AllStar was offline (Down) > > > Your unable to ping it? Well holy shit, one ping died in the ether from > your > computer. > > I'm done with you. Go be a pirate and enjoy suckling at John's teet. > > -- > Bryan Fields > > 727-409-1194 - Voicehttp://bryanfields.net > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing listApp_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.orghttp://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://lists.allstarlink.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" > You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. > >

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Lies, damn lies, and John David McGough
by Bryan Fields 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

It's funny to write this yet again, however AllStar is being attacked by the people who have contributed nothing and stolen everything from this community. I was forwarded an email with claims of registration issues by John David McGough. Now these people (who use the AllStar registration servers and core infrastructure) claim once again, AllStar has problems with registration services. They refuse to provide any evidence of this, but have no problems spreading this FUD. Registration is, and has been working. ASL has multiple servers running, and the nodes list is being generated properly too. This is stable and working. If one dies, DNS moves it to another server. If one has a registration issue, what is a better way to handle it; a. email the help desk <rt(a)allstarlink.org> or this mailing list, or b. provide no notice and bitch about and libel the community? Anyone can check <https://grafana.allstarlink.org> and see the registration counts, and the top authentication failures. This isn't on a delay, if something is broken it's going to show there, and it's the first thing the admin team checks when problems are reported. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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