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Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base (I/O pins)
by Mark Hergesheimer 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Count us in as well Mark Hergesheimer KD6WLY N6OCS Group

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
by David McGough 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

I've used several of these from newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128002 They're CM108's, not blobs, and fairly easy to modify. 73, David kb4fxc On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David Osborn wrote: > I have used a bunch of these: > > http://www.lindy-usa.com/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html > ( http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html for the Brits!!) > > They *are* CM108, and they are not "Blobs". They are a breeze to modify. > > Also - if it's of any interest - they work v-e-r-y well indeed!! > > David Osborn > GD4HOZ > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:21:35 -0400 > From: "Doug Bade" <kd8b(a)thebades.net> > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > To: "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com> > Message-ID: <004001cb5ff2$637e7f70$2a7b7e50$(a)thebades.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Jim; > > I am not even necessarily advocating them for this > application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or > physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the > 5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought > that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I > have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay). > > > > Obviously this is all subject to change at the whim of the > Chinese sellers/builders. So it is a moving target. I use the ebay search > of" USB sound 7.1" and then filter by those who do state the chip, but you > are correct.. several that even USED to be CM1xx are shipping SSS1623 in > place of CM1xx. and are still claiming to be CM1xx. > > > > I have not seen any other chips being used in the 7.1 > devices.. but others may weigh in. > > > > As I stated.. I personally use URI's. I have no pony in the race here. I do > use them for other things I own about 30 of the little buggers of one > variety or another. Stay AWAY from the little green meanies for anything > where high resolution is an issue.. I find their "fidelity" atrocious and > would not consider them for anything besides a cheap headphone interface for > a PC with no other sound.. > > > > Doug > > KD8B > > > > > > From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:06 PM > To: kd8b(a)thebades.net; app_rpt mailing list > Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > > > As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful > response) > I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is > currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate > to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where > they > are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After > all, > we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as > whether > they are buying an appropriate device). > > Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a > number > of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the > maker/type of USB device contained in them. > > And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip > and LIE!! > Poo-ey on them!!! > > JIM WB6NIL > > > > > > From: kd8b(a)thebades.net > > To: app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > > > JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in > > windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as > a > > high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work > for > > App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor > > to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the > > U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type > > projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media > devices... > > other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there > that > > is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for > App-rpt > > systems I am building... > > > > Doug > > KD8B > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)qrvc.com > [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com] > > On Behalf Of Ken > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM > > To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > > > Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package > has > > CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek > (HY559 > > chip I think). I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was > > un-acknowledged by Dealextreme). > > > > I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program > > thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and > read > > audio. It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is > > immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the > > 'blob' to use for PTT. I think it could be used for my weather radio > > application, but the software changes would be a bit tricky (for me) > making > > some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left > and > > right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try. > > > > I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable > > solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns > > out to have the wrong chip. > > > > Ken > > > > Buyer beware, as usual. > > www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- > > > bounces(a)qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM > > > To: app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > > > > > > > > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from: > > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812 > > > > > > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob" > > > much > > > like the cheapo Ebay fobs. > > > > > > Has anybody had the same problem? > > > > > > 73. > > > > > > Kyle > > > K0KN > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > >

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs
by David Osborn 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

I have used a bunch of these: http://www.lindy-usa.com/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html ( http://www.lindy.co.uk/usb-2-audio-adapter/42961.html for the Brits!!) They *are* CM108, and they are not "Blobs". They are a breeze to modify. Also - if it's of any interest - they work v-e-r-y well indeed!! David Osborn GD4HOZ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:21:35 -0400 From: "Doug Bade" <kd8b(a)thebades.net> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs To: "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com> Message-ID: <004001cb5ff2$637e7f70$2a7b7e50$(a)thebades.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jim; I am not even necessarily advocating them for this application. What I can say is ALL of the USB 7.1 devices I have bought or physically have had access to have either CM1xx or SSS1623 chipsets.. the 5.1 marked devices. all bets are off.. In all the 7.1 sound devices I bought that used to be CM1xx, current shipped product have the SSS1623 chips. ( I have bought at least 8 or 10 lots of various sellers on Ebay). Obviously this is all subject to change at the whim of the Chinese sellers/builders. So it is a moving target. I use the ebay search of" USB sound 7.1" and then filter by those who do state the chip, but you are correct.. several that even USED to be CM1xx are shipping SSS1623 in place of CM1xx. and are still claiming to be CM1xx. I have not seen any other chips being used in the 7.1 devices.. but others may weigh in. As I stated.. I personally use URI's. I have no pony in the race here. I do use them for other things I own about 30 of the little buggers of one variety or another. Stay AWAY from the little green meanies for anything where high resolution is an issue.. I find their "fidelity" atrocious and would not consider them for anything besides a cheap headphone interface for a PC with no other sound.. Doug KD8B From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:06 PM To: kd8b(a)thebades.net; app_rpt mailing list Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs As I have stated in the past (and got absolutely no significantly helpful response) I wil be MORE THEN HAPPY to evaluate whatever "the" popular USB chip is currently, if SOMEONE would PLEASE determine what that is, and demonstate to me that it is the case (perhaps by showing me a number of places where they are available and are clearly documented as to be the desired device. After all, we cant have people relying on complete luck and/or randomness as far as whether they are buying an appropriate device). Personally, I took a look at various random places, such as EBAY that sell a number of USB audio devices, and for the most part NONE of them even HINT as to the maker/type of USB device contained in them. And then of course, there are the ones that say they are the C-media chip and LIE!! Poo-ey on them!!! JIM WB6NIL > From: kd8b(a)thebades.net > To: app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:38:59 -0400 > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > JMTek is the vendor for the SS1623 chipset. This chipset works well in > windows and other Linux applications such as pcrepeatercontroller etc.. as a > high quality high scan rate device... It is unfortunate it does not work for > App_rpt at this time. It does seem to be the currently available successor > to the C-Media chip family being found in many sound fobs coming in to the > U.S. at this time.. They do work well in many other amateur radio type > projects going on.... In general they perform as well as C-Media devices... > other than using another driver... the I/O pin may or may not be there that > is used for the PTT, I have not investigated that as I use URI's for App-rpt > systems I am building... > > Doug > KD8B > > -----Original Message----- > From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com] > On Behalf Of Ken > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:07 AM > To: 'Yokshs'; app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > Yes ... it took at >month for me to get mine and even though the package has > CM-108 written right on it, the chip is identified by Linux as JMTek (HY559 > chip I think). I sent an e-mail expressing my disappointment (which was > un-acknowledged by Dealextreme). > > I found if you modify the vendor codes in usb_radio.c so that the program > thinks this JMTek is actually a C-Media unit, it will scan the fob and read > audio. It will not turn the red light on for transmit though ... which is > immaterial anyway, since you cannot get at the wire you need inside the > 'blob' to use for PTT. I think it could be used for my weather radio > application, but the software changes would be a bit tricky (for me) making > some if/and/or logic more complicated - getting the arrangement of left and > right parenthesis correct eluded on the first try. > > I have one other source on the way now, which would be the preferable > solution (no software mod needed). But I will not be surprised if it turns > out to have the wrong chip. > > Ken > > Buyer beware, as usual. > www.dinodirect.com/sound-card-adapter-usb-cm108-chipset.html?ddse=CM-108 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: app_rpt-users-bounces(a)qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users- > > bounces(a)qrvc.com] On Behalf Of Yokshs > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:43 AM > > To: app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Cheap USB Fobs > > > > > > I received my CM108 fobs yesterday. I ordered them from: > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21812 > > > > I haven't had much time to play with them yet, but the IC is a "blob" > > much > > like the cheapo Ebay fobs. > > > > Has anybody had the same problem? > > > > 73. > > > > Kyle > > K0KN > > > > _______________________________________________ > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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Re: [App_rpt-users] Maxtrac as a remote base
by Jim Duuuude 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Good grief! I have no idea that people were even interested in this functionality. I will definitely work on it. And by the way, letting me know of a desired valuable enhancement like this is HARDLY "opening a can of worms". I rely on this type of input to know what I can do to improve the technology and make it useful for more people. Thanks. JIM WB6NIL

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How to add an IAX2 extension to call via radio
by Alex Casanova 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Hi My name is Alex Casanova (EA5HJX) this is the my first time with module. I am working in a project to integrate radio with VoIP (Asterisk). The project is HSMMN (High Speed Multimedia Network) in Spain. I have a computer with Allstarlink with an URI. Now I would like to create an IAX2 or SIP account to call out via radio. I followed the steps so far are: in iax.conf [100] type = friend secret = radio callerid = "IAX Phone <100> host = dynamic context = radio-secure Qualify = yes autokill = yes disallow = all allow = gsm My guess is that I have to put extensions.conf or rpt.conf to call an extension and broadcast through radio. Thanks for all Best Regards Alex Casanova (EA5HJX) --- 1) www.bicubik.net/hsmmn

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VX2000 Yaesu Radio
by keith handscombe 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

Good afternoon all, I run the MB7IIP node in the UK and at present have an Alinco in 9600 Baud running my node. The USB mod on the key fob works great and I would like to add a 70cm link. The radio is a Yaesu VX 2000 can someone give us a hand with the connectivity of this radio and the changes to my USB config please. I have included the wire code I have and the wire code of the VX2000. I have swapped the TX RX over as this seemed to me as the only change needed but still nothing from DTMF. I can go into asterisk and force a ptt as a console command and the radio will then PTT help now needed as I have tried most of last night and today. Many thanks for any help Details are: The Alinco is wired as follows and I have flat audio set on key fob plus key fob is sorting CTCSS : The Yaesu VX2000 is as follows as this too has a 9 pin connector on the rear of the radio. The radio is set in DFLT mode at the moment. Pin Signal Default and Alternate Configurations, Signal Levels, Notes 1 Squelch Output High level (5VDC / 47 kOhms) when carrier received. This does NOT care about any kind of coded squelch, just RF signal. 2 Receive Audio Output DFLT - De-emphasized Audio Output: 100mV, 10 kOhm. The output level is fixed at the factory by having no jumper at JP1003 and soldering the jumper at JP1002 on the Main unit. ALT - Flat (not De-Emphasized) Unmuted Audio Output: 250mV, 10 kOhm. Unsolder the jumper at JP1002 and solder a jumper at JP1003 on the Main unit. 3 Transmit Audio Input DFLT - Pre-Emphasized / IDC / Splatter Filtered Audio Input: 2.5mV, 600 Ohm. This input is fixed at the factory by attaching capacitor C1254 across JP1005 and soldering a jumper at JP1004 on the Main unit. ALT - Flat (not Pre-Emphasized) Audio Input: 650mV, 10 kOhm. Remove the jumper at JP1004 and solder a jumper across JP1005 on the Main unit. 4 Not Used 5 Ground Signal ground. 6 Auxiliary Output DFLT - Not Used. No jumper across JP1001 on the Main unit. ALT - Accessory Output: Open Connector Output. 'A' lamp On: Low, 'A' lamp Off: Open. Maximum voltage: 13.8V. Maximum sink current: 5mA. Solder a jumper at JP1001 on the MAIN Unit. 7 PTT Input Ground for TX, float for RX. 8 +5VDC Switched and regulated 5VDC at 50mA. 9 Not Used I hope someone can assist in the wire code changes from the Alinco to the VX2000. If whomever can help explains that the VX2000 would work better if I change to the ALT method I am happy to make the changes. Once again many thanks K Handscombe www.handscombe.co.uk

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Final Acid installation questions
by Darril Holland 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

After installing Acid(centos) I get to change unix password, did that.Then asked if info was set up on Allstarlink, server, node# ect. answered yes Asked if I wanted automatic setup answered yes. Asked for node# , node password, call ect. It then asked for Allstar portal user id What do I need here? server name ?Typed in what I thought, which was probably wrong. 2nd question; got to test login, just typed in garbage to see whats next, asked for password. what do I need for these 2 Any help would be welcomed. Darril/WD5GJP

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MAX_URI
by Cem ERGEN 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

hello everybody, i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this? i've found a code in the linux server file name: chan_usbradio.c in that file : #define MAX_URIS 32 when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64 or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that, please help me.. thanks have a nice days --

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Re: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI
by Doug Hutchison 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

? Me too? What requires 32 URI's 32x60$ = a lot? ? On 21/09/2010 18:43:49, Jim Duuuude (telesistant(a)hotmail.com) wrote: > Okay... I want to see a picture of this... Yes, All 32 of those URI's all connected up to your 1 computer... > > this should be interesting... > > JIM WB6NIL > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:40 +0000 > From: cemergen(a)gmail.com > To: app_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > Subject: [App_rpt-users] MAX_URI > > hello everybody, > i've 32 uri adapters and i want to run 32 uri at same time so fist 7 uri is working, others isn't working, is there any limit to do this?i've found a code in the linux server > > file name: chan_usbradio.c > in that file : > > >#define MAX_URIS 32 > > when change this number 32 to 3, only 3 uri is working but change 32 to 64 or something.. only 7 uri is working.. i don't understant that,please help me.. thanks have a nice days > > -- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > App_rpt-users mailing list > App_rpt-users(a)qrvc.com > http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

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Echolink Database Downloading Partial Updates, Can't connect for over 30 Minutes.
by KI6PSP (Ed) 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

I started testing Echolink capability this morning, it wasn't for about two weeks and I don't know why. It would keep timing out when trying to connect to my node, but outbound connections from the node were working. Now its working..... Ok, Echolink via iPod with proxy settings. I sat here for over 30 minutes trying to connect and kept getting "UN-AUTHORIZED". I know the repeater downloads the database every 5 minutes but it looks like only partials. Here is my output: [Sep 20 07:01:53] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:02:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server2.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:02:50] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:02:57] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 224 records [Sep 20 07:03:12] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:06:58] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:07:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 189 records [Sep 20 07:07:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:08:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server3.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:08:35] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:11:04] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:11:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 402 records [Sep 20 07:11:25] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:14:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:15:17] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:15:26] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:15:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 426 records [Sep 20 07:16:10] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:19:32] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:19:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 681 records [Sep 20 07:20:23] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server2.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:23:03] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:23:54] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:23:58] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:23:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 156 records [Sep 20 07:24:38] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:26:24] NOTICE[8846]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server3.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:26:28] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:27:59] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:1770 sendcmd: Received OK from Echolink server server1.echolink.org [Sep 20 07:28:09] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184uKI6PSP [Sep 20 07:28:09] NOTICE[8848]: chan_echolink.c:2102 do_el_directory: Directory pgm done downloading(partial,compressed), 305 records [Sep 20 07:29:17] ERROR[8847]: chan_echolink.c:2185 do_new_call: Cannot find DB entry for b/ipaddr/216.129.118.184qKI6PSP My Question is, Is there any way to change how often it performs a Full download instead of a partial. I understand the security of waiting for a call to be in the databases, but this timing is ridiculous. -- KI6PSP (Ed)

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