April 2014 - App_rpt-users - lists.keekles.org

RTCM Commands
by Wayne 19 Apr '14

19 Apr '14

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate it. I will reply inline for clarity. ----- Hi Wayne, I re-read some earlier messages in this and related threads, to better understand your systems design goals. And, the earlier threads have left me with even more questions. From what I read, you've got a substantially complex system planned. It's going to take some expert level work with radios and computer networking to get setup, no matter what solution you choose. I believe it's all quite do-able with AllStar, but, is well beyond the scope of this mailing list. To address your specific questions, below: 1) Selling RC-210's should be simple enough (E-bay?). [ I thought I saw something about not reselling them. At a minimum they have to buy the software. ] 2) Since you've got a private network and a public network involved, that's fine. But, this is a somewhat complex networking task. You'll need to get everything "talking together." I'm suspecting you'll want to implement some VPN's (Virtual Private Networks) to accomplish this. I use OpenVPN under Linux. It works great. BTW, I'm not sure RTCM's are the best solution. And, you don't need a Windows box at each site. [ My intent is to vote/simulcast two of three sites and bring in a third site on a different pair. Site 1-2 require a RTCM and Site 3 a URI, correct? ][ I've never done anything with a VPN and don't know how to implement it. I thought that given to IP's by my site vendor the RTCM's would talk on the same network, albeit a VLAN. But how do I access it to control? How can I bridge the public IP I have been given with the private VLAN? ] 2) There is an small, unavoidable audio delay from audio input to output with AllStar. This is typical with any VoIP radio system, including full digital systems like D-Star and DMR, etc. This delay isn't like the delay found in traditional analog linked repeater systems, however. In older linked systems, you'd have to hold the PTT down for a second or so to allow all the transmitters to come on-line or you'd loose that initial audio. AllStar digitally buffers the audio during propagation from any member receiver to all member transmitters. So, the audio could be buffered and delayed as much as several hundred milliseconds (a big network!). But, not typically lost. [ I can deal with the delay. ] 3) As for persistent kerkhunkers and other issues, no hardware is going to solve that. That is an etiquette problem. Over time, (most) users can be trained to behave. Yes, I know you're saying: "Yeah, right. I hear you." But, I help with several wide-coverage repeater systems, so, I've been there, too. [ Jammer's that kerchunk to annoy cannot be trained. ] 4) Yes, you can hook various systems together (WX radios, remote bases, etc.) into a single network quite easily with AllStar. But, it will likely take some complex scripting and networking to do, just like with any controller. I don't fully understand the scope of what you're wanting and as I mentioned above, trying to build the system here is beyond the scope of this mailing list. [ I don't mean to be rude but this should be an easy task to do and understand. We are an ECOMM repeater(s) and each site needs a WX receiver on it. The commercial WX receivers have audio, COR, PTT and COS. I don't see how this is beyond the scope of the mailing list. Can I connect such a device using a URI? ] I understand your overwhelm! I would recommend getting started in small steps, if possible. First, only put up a test repeater or remote base with AllStar and get a grasp of how that is setup. Then, add a second AllStar box and network the two together--take small steps. Now, if that's not a possibility--meaning you've got to have the whole system on-line "like tomorrow", you probably need to locate some expert help ASAP; due to the big learning curve with this (or any other) complex VoIP system. [ I have plenty of time. I don't see our needs as complex at all. Two voted/simulcast repeaters and a third repeater linked in. A WX receiver and an Earthquake Alarm receiver on each repeater. ] Anyway, I hope this helps some. 73, David KB4FXC

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New to allstar
by moran 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

How do I check the setting for Duplex I want to set for Duplex=1 I keep getting voice message saying Node 40720 timeout Nick Moran KC3AIV 73

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First BBB to BBB Allstar QSO
by Doug Crompton 18 Apr '14

18 Apr '14

Well we had what I think is the first BeagleBone Black to BeagleBone Black Allstar QSO tonight when KB4FXC and I connected. The really cool thing is that he was running usbradio on his end!!! Yes, usbradio on the BBB! I was running simpleusb on my end. He reported about 20% CPU utilization and I was at about half that. Good audio and no delay. Very exciting. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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beaglebone black
by Greg 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

Hello.. just wondering of the progress on getting Allstar running on the Beaglebone Black. I haven't heard much in a while. 73 Greg

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Router Port Forwarding with Node 28129
by Rob Mavis 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

We are using a D-Link DI-624 router and have the port forwarding configured as port 4569 UDP. Outbound connections can be made by the node, but inbound can not connect. I read somewhere that there are issues with some routers and there is some configuration required on the Allstar end. Any help would be appreciated. -- Rob Mavis - AE6GE President Clovis Amateur Radio Pioneers P.O. Box 514 Clovis, CA 93613 http://www.k6arp.org ae6ge(a)k6arp.org 559-492-7675

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Acid install help
by Barrett 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

Hello, I am trying to install the Acid distribution of Allstar. The computer is a ACER Aspire M1202-U1850A Desktop PC - AMD Athlon LE-1640 2.6GHz, 2GB DDR2, 320GB HDD, DVDRW. During installation everything seems fine until the computer restarts and then ask to remove media after that the computer will freeze at yum-updatesd after a while it will tell me that I have no internet connection. Now to be honest I am new to Linux. I did install Centos 6 as a test and it had internet also I install a copy of debian and it also had internet. I do have a IRLP node that I wish to convert over to allstar. Could you please point me in the right direction for installation? I ordered a usb sound fob and also an pci parallel port. The port being for the irlp board ver 3. Thanks for your time and help. KG7CHJ 40775

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Re: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp
by Doug Crompton 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

It is always easier to get things going with simpleusb assuming you have a hardwired cos or ctss line to the URI interface. In many cases usbradio just makes things a whole lot more complicated than it needs to be. If you are using the URI use the COS input (pin 8 as I remember) from the radio. All you need to do is set the COS in simpleusb.conf to invert or non-invert depending on the radio output. Make sure duplex in rpt.conf is set to 1. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kk6ecm(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:15:37 -0700 To: doug(a)crompton.com Us, all works from that side... The red PTT light does not activate when connected to the radio, even during an I'd transmit. If I send a tone to the radio from CLI, it will light, and come out over the air. It's behavior is confusing. The system responds to COS_det on receive, but no voice comes through, acting like no ctcss detected with =dsp... When the computer died, I just loaded up ACID, then copied over the .conf files, and located the URI using lsusb, entering the data in the usbradio_tune... File. Thanks,Bobkk6ecm Sent from iPad On Apr 15, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Doug Crompton <doug(a)crompton.com> wrote: Well first thing is the URI's green light blinking at a steady rate when asterisk-app_rpt is started? You can also exercise the PTT off and on in the CLI. Do susb ? or radio ? to see commands depending on whether you are using simpleusb or usbradio. Also do you get any errors at the CLI screen or look in /var/log/asterisk/messages? Does 'lsusb' at the linux prompt show that the FOB was detected? 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kk6ecm(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:35:57 -0700 To: doug(a)crompton.com Asterisk is not talking to the radio via the URI for some reason. Is it asterisk, the URI, or the radio? Just trying to eliminate each possible issue. I often feel like I'm shooting in the dark with this system. If it wasn't for this list, and folks like yourself, I'd be totally lost... May be lost anyway, but inputs keep me going :-). I really appreciate your insights and inputs. Yes, app_rpt was running... Wondered if I needed turn stop it first. Thanks much!Bobkk6ecm Sent from iPad On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Doug Crompton <doug(a)crompton.com> wrote: Bob, Do you have a reason to run uridiag? Do you suspect your uri is bad? If not there is no reason to run it. Perhaps app_rpt is running also? You would need to run that exclusively. Stop asterisk or reboot without starting it before running uridiag. You would need to make up the test cable as per the DMK site to test it. the snd-pcm-oss modules needs to be loaded. It creates /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer modprobe snd-pcm-oss to load lsmod to check if it is loaded - or ls /dev/dsp - is should be there. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kk6ecm(a)gmail.com To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:29:42 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp Any ideas how to solve this one? # uridiag URIDiag, diagnostic program for the DMK Engineering URI USB Radio Interface, version 0.8, 04/26/11 Found CM108AH USB Radio Interface at 002/003 Unable to re-open DSP device 1: /dev/dsp1 Segmentation fault Do I need a loopback? Thanks, Bob kk6ecm _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

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Node time out
by moran 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

I have installed acid on a PC and set up the node from advanced repeater specialties. It is plugged into a UV five are beofang hand-held. I am able to connect to the All-Star network. But every time I transmit or receive a signal. I get a voice message it says node 40720 timeout. I have research this to the best of my ability could someone please give me some help. Thank you Nick Moran KC3AIV 73

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Re: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp
by Doug Crompton 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

Well first thing is the URI's green light blinking at a steady rate when asterisk-app_rpt is started? You can also exercise the PTT off and on in the CLI. Do susb ? or radio ? to see commands depending on whether you are using simpleusb or usbradio. Also do you get any errors at the CLI screen or look in /var/log/asterisk/messages? Does 'lsusb' at the linux prompt show that the FOB was detected? 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kk6ecm(a)gmail.com Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:35:57 -0700 To: doug(a)crompton.com Asterisk is not talking to the radio via the URI for some reason. Is it asterisk, the URI, or the radio? Just trying to eliminate each possible issue. I often feel like I'm shooting in the dark with this system. If it wasn't for this list, and folks like yourself, I'd be totally lost... May be lost anyway, but inputs keep me going :-). I really appreciate your insights and inputs. Yes, app_rpt was running... Wondered if I needed turn stop it first. Thanks much!Bobkk6ecm Sent from iPad On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Doug Crompton <doug(a)crompton.com> wrote: Bob, Do you have a reason to run uridiag? Do you suspect your uri is bad? If not there is no reason to run it. Perhaps app_rpt is running also? You would need to run that exclusively. Stop asterisk or reboot without starting it before running uridiag. You would need to make up the test cable as per the DMK site to test it. the snd-pcm-oss modules needs to be loaded. It creates /dev/dsp, /dev/mixer modprobe snd-pcm-oss to load lsmod to check if it is loaded - or ls /dev/dsp - is should be there. 73 Doug WA3DSP http://www.crompton.com/hamradio From: kk6ecm(a)gmail.com To: app_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:29:42 -0700 Subject: [App_rpt-users] /dev/dsp Any ideas how to solve this one? # uridiag URIDiag, diagnostic program for the DMK Engineering URI USB Radio Interface, version 0.8, 04/26/11 Found CM108AH USB Radio Interface at 002/003 Unable to re-open DSP device 1: /dev/dsp1 Segmentation fault Do I need a loopback? Thanks, Bob kk6ecm _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.

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IPs don`t update
by torben＠klimt-online.com 15 Apr '14

15 Apr '14

Hi all, i set up an new allstarlink node and now i have the problem that the IPs of the other allstarlink nodes not update. After restart the machine the IPs in the Database are correct and I can connect to my other nodes. But after 24h my nodes get new IPs from the Internetprovider and then it is no longer possible cause the new allstarlink node should always try to reach the old IP address. I think there is a problem by updating the allstarlink nodenumber - IP address database Where is the file located or what can I do for debugging or better fix the problem Tnx 73...

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