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Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar
by Wayne 13 Apr '14

13 Apr '14

One more thought, if I may. How do voted systems bring in IRLP or EchoLink? Aren't we talking about something similar? I'm really bummed now. _____ From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:57 PM To: Wayne Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Well, I don't know how much help I can be here. I don't use voting, don't like it, never will, but that's me. Trying to combine a voted system of RTCM's into a regular RF link may be interesting. Not sure how the RTCM will react to a "link" input as it is used to discriminator input as far as know. There are people more familiar with RTCM's voting and simulcasting than I am that may be able to help you. I use URI's and have just connected them directly to controller ports, like you would a link radio, and they work and sound great! I have even used them as the controller and sound even better! Sorry I can't be much more help than that! good luck and 73 de Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne <mailto:wayne@anywherehost.net> To: 'app_rpt <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> mailing list' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Hi Greg, Thank you for taking the time to reply. Our operational goal is a hybrid system that is voted and simulcast between two repeaters 100 miles apart but overlapping input coverage. They have no LOS. Site 1 and 2 are on a VLAN provided by the site vendor but Site 3 only has wireless internet. We will be using a RF link. We don't want to use the public internet. Each location will also have a remote base and a WX receiver with a FIPS code for that area only. Using some switching logic we will disconnect from Allstar if the WX receiver triggers. No need to send marine weather alerts to the desert. The topology expected is Site 1 -> Site 2 (Allstar; voted), Site 1 -> Site 3 (RF link; different frequency). Since it isn't our VLAN we can't use Ubiquity or similar to link to Site 3 as an unvoted device. There is also significant overlap of outputs but I sure would love to be voted and have only one pair. That would be so nice. We already have RC-210's so we don't want to toss them aside and buy RTCM's as just controllers as has been suggested. We will end up with RTCM's for the voting ($$$) and the RC-210's for control. Using the RC-210's allows us cell phone access to the RC-210's as well as through the remote bases. As you probably know the RC-210's have a 4th port that is no frills. The WX receivers can go on this "port". _____ From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:48 PM To: Wayne Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Wayne, I think what we need is to figure out what exactly you are trying to do. If you are running a full simulcast/voted system, (multiple transmitters, multiple receivers with ALL receivers and transmitters connected via Allstar) and want a backup RF link, you will need 3 total ports. 1 for the repeater, 1 for the backup RF link and 1 for the RTCM. Just treat the RTCM like a "Link Radio" as that is basically what it is. Since you are new to allstar, I assume that is not the case. If you are just trying to connect your repeater or repeater system to Allstar, a RTCM is serious overkill! I would recommend a DMK URI for 1/4 the price. You can even use it as the controller and eliminate your current unit! It will still run as a standalone repeater when offline. Does that help? Let us know what you have and what you would like to do and we could probably be more help. 73 de Greg KJ6KO ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne <mailto:wayne@anywherehost.net> To: 'app_rpt <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> mailing list' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar ".If you mean you want to parallel app_rpt/allstar with a existing hardwired controller, you will need to use "DUPLEX=0 & LINKTOLINK=YES" on the primary node for that/each location. It will give you the same fullduplex but with no hang time etc that you can parallel with existing controller. A port on your rc-210 if i remember them correct." I sincerely appreciate the answer but as I mentioned I am new to Allstar. As such I don't know how to ask the question. I received this reply and appreciate the time it took to write. But I wonder if another user can offer insight into wiring. Do I wire the Allstar device to Port 1 and then the repeater to port 2? Do I keep the option of voted simulcast? Doing so only leaves one port remaining. Am I missing something in the translation here? Thank you. I appreciate your time. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9666 (20140411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _____ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. 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Allmon2 on pi remote web server
by Mal Good 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

Hi I am running a Beagle / LOX combination which is working well. I have a Raspberry Pi running as a web server, which is also running fine! What I would like to do is run Allmon2 on the web server. This is where I am having difficulties. Has anyone done this? Or set up Allmon2 in a remote web server system? If so can you let me know what you manager.conf setting are in Asterisk and also what you allmon.ini settings are? My router port forwarding setting, I think, are correct. Any other help would be greatly appreciated. Mal VK6MT

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Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar
by Wayne 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

I am completely confused by your first reply that said: "If you are running a full simulcast/voted system, (multiple transmitters, multiple receivers with ALL receivers and transmitters connected via Allstar) and want a backup RF link, you will need 3 total ports. 1 for the repeater, 1 for the backup RF link and 1 for the RTCM. Just treat the RTCM like a "Link Radio" as that is basically what it is." It's early now and I may be missing something. Are you suggesting that this won't work? I of course mean no disrespect. I've just pulled a double shift and I'm pretty beat and may not be understanding. _____ From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:57 PM To: Wayne Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Well, I don't know how much help I can be here. I don't use voting, don't like it, never will, but that's me. Trying to combine a voted system of RTCM's into a regular RF link may be interesting. Not sure how the RTCM will react to a "link" input as it is used to discriminator input as far as know. There are people more familiar with RTCM's voting and simulcasting than I am that may be able to help you. I use URI's and have just connected them directly to controller ports, like you would a link radio, and they work and sound great! I have even used them as the controller and sound even better! Sorry I can't be much more help than that! good luck and 73 de Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne <mailto:wayne@anywherehost.net> To: 'app_rpt <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> mailing list' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Hi Greg, Thank you for taking the time to reply. Our operational goal is a hybrid system that is voted and simulcast between two repeaters 100 miles apart but overlapping input coverage. They have no LOS. Site 1 and 2 are on a VLAN provided by the site vendor but Site 3 only has wireless internet. We will be using a RF link. We don't want to use the public internet. Each location will also have a remote base and a WX receiver with a FIPS code for that area only. Using some switching logic we will disconnect from Allstar if the WX receiver triggers. No need to send marine weather alerts to the desert. The topology expected is Site 1 -> Site 2 (Allstar; voted), Site 1 -> Site 3 (RF link; different frequency). Since it isn't our VLAN we can't use Ubiquity or similar to link to Site 3 as an unvoted device. There is also significant overlap of outputs but I sure would love to be voted and have only one pair. That would be so nice. We already have RC-210's so we don't want to toss them aside and buy RTCM's as just controllers as has been suggested. We will end up with RTCM's for the voting ($$$) and the RC-210's for control. Using the RC-210's allows us cell phone access to the RC-210's as well as through the remote bases. As you probably know the RC-210's have a 4th port that is no frills. The WX receivers can go on this "port". _____ From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:48 PM To: Wayne Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Wayne, I think what we need is to figure out what exactly you are trying to do. If you are running a full simulcast/voted system, (multiple transmitters, multiple receivers with ALL receivers and transmitters connected via Allstar) and want a backup RF link, you will need 3 total ports. 1 for the repeater, 1 for the backup RF link and 1 for the RTCM. Just treat the RTCM like a "Link Radio" as that is basically what it is. Since you are new to allstar, I assume that is not the case. If you are just trying to connect your repeater or repeater system to Allstar, a RTCM is serious overkill! I would recommend a DMK URI for 1/4 the price. You can even use it as the controller and eliminate your current unit! It will still run as a standalone repeater when offline. Does that help? Let us know what you have and what you would like to do and we could probably be more help. 73 de Greg KJ6KO ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne <mailto:wayne@anywherehost.net> To: 'app_rpt <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> mailing list' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar ".If you mean you want to parallel app_rpt/allstar with a existing hardwired controller, you will need to use "DUPLEX=0 & LINKTOLINK=YES" on the primary node for that/each location. It will give you the same fullduplex but with no hang time etc that you can parallel with existing controller. A port on your rc-210 if i remember them correct." I sincerely appreciate the answer but as I mentioned I am new to Allstar. As such I don't know how to ask the question. I received this reply and appreciate the time it took to write. But I wonder if another user can offer insight into wiring. Do I wire the Allstar device to Port 1 and then the repeater to port 2? Do I keep the option of voted simulcast? Doing so only leaves one port remaining. Am I missing something in the translation here? Thank you. I appreciate your time. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9666 (20140411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _____ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. 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Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar
by Wayne 12 Apr '14

12 Apr '14

Hi Greg, Thank you for taking the time to reply. Our operational goal is a hybrid system that is voted and simulcast between two repeaters 100 miles apart but overlapping input coverage. They have no LOS. Site 1 and 2 are on a VLAN provided by the site vendor but Site 3 only has wireless internet. We will be using a RF link. We don't want to use the public internet. Each location will also have a remote base and a WX receiver with a FIPS code for that area only. Using some switching logic we will disconnect from Allstar if the WX receiver triggers. No need to send marine weather alerts to the desert. The topology expected is Site 1 -> Site 2 (Allstar; voted), Site 1 -> Site 3 (RF link; different frequency). Since it isn't our VLAN we can't use Ubiquity or similar to link to Site 3 as an unvoted device. There is also significant overlap of outputs but I sure would love to be voted and have only one pair. That would be so nice. We already have RC-210's so we don't want to toss them aside and buy RTCM's as just controllers as has been suggested. We will end up with RTCM's for the voting ($$$) and the RC-210's for control. Using the RC-210's allows us cell phone access to the RC-210's as well as through the remote bases. As you probably know the RC-210's have a 4th port that is no frills. The WX receivers can go on this "port". _____ From: KJ6KO [mailto:kj6ko@innercite.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:48 PM To: Wayne Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar Wayne, I think what we need is to figure out what exactly you are trying to do. If you are running a full simulcast/voted system, (multiple transmitters, multiple receivers with ALL receivers and transmitters connected via Allstar) and want a backup RF link, you will need 3 total ports. 1 for the repeater, 1 for the backup RF link and 1 for the RTCM. Just treat the RTCM like a "Link Radio" as that is basically what it is. Since you are new to allstar, I assume that is not the case. If you are just trying to connect your repeater or repeater system to Allstar, a RTCM is serious overkill! I would recommend a DMK URI for 1/4 the price. You can even use it as the controller and eliminate your current unit! It will still run as a standalone repeater when offline. Does that help? Let us know what you have and what you would like to do and we could probably be more help. 73 de Greg KJ6KO ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne <mailto:wayne@anywherehost.net> To: 'app_rpt <mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org> mailing list' Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar ".If you mean you want to parallel app_rpt/allstar with a existing hardwired controller, you will need to use "DUPLEX=0 & LINKTOLINK=YES" on the primary node for that/each location. It will give you the same fullduplex but with no hang time etc that you can parallel with existing controller. A port on your rc-210 if i remember them correct." I sincerely appreciate the answer but as I mentioned I am new to Allstar. As such I don't know how to ask the question. I received this reply and appreciate the time it took to write. But I wonder if another user can offer insight into wiring. Do I wire the Allstar device to Port 1 and then the repeater to port 2? Do I keep the option of voted simulcast? Doing so only leaves one port remaining. Am I missing something in the translation here? Thank you. I appreciate your time. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9666 (20140411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _____ _______________________________________________ App_rpt-users mailing list App_rpt-users(a)ohnosec.org http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users To unsubscribe from this list please visit http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users and scroll down to the bottom of the page. Enter your email address and press the "Unsubscribe or edit options button" You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9666 (20140411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9667 (20140411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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Looking for Subject Matter Experts on iaxRpt in relation to XIPAR
by n6gkj.cm98＠yahoo.com 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

Hey guys! Thanks for the help on my port issues. Now my next project is figuring out all the ins and outs of the iaxRpt preferences. There is a caller id field asking for a name and number. Is this tied to an entry in the XIPAR configuration and does the ACID install support this as well? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Re: [App_rpt-users] External Controller Plus Allstar
by Wayne 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

".If you mean you want to parallel app_rpt/allstar with a existing hardwired controller, you will need to use "DUPLEX=0 & LINKTOLINK=YES" on the primary node for that/each location. It will give you the same fullduplex but with no hang time etc that you can parallel with existing controller. A port on your rc-210 if i remember them correct." I sincerely appreciate the answer but as I mentioned I am new to Allstar. As such I don't know how to ask the question. I received this reply and appreciate the time it took to write. But I wonder if another user can offer insight into wiring. Do I wire the Allstar device to Port 1 and then the repeater to port 2? Do I keep the option of voted simulcast? Doing so only leaves one port remaining. Am I missing something in the translation here? Thank you. I appreciate your time.

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Playing sound files
by Bob 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

What is the command to play (exercise) a sound file for test purposes (e.g. tailmessage)? Thanks, Bob kk6ecm

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External Controller Plus Allstar
by Wayne 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

I was told that I can have more than one input to the repeater, as in two sources in parallel. I need to use Allstar to vote/simulcast and a RC-210 controller at each site for backup linking. I wasn't told anything more. Can someone help me please? Thank you. I appreciate it.

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MAC Mini Platform?
by Chris Hill - K7AZ 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Has anyone built an AllStatar system using a MAC Mini? Thanks, Chris K7AZ

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Beagle XM
by bob＠fot.com.au 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi Guys Does anyone know if "rxondelay" is supported in the Beagle XM version and in what file does it go I guess beagle.conf instead of simpleusb.conf Bob VK6ZGN

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